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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 9, 2018 14:12:01 GMT -6
I had to open the box score of the game in another browser window, and check it repeatedly, because reading all the praise that Whitford and the players had for themselves and their right way of playing kept making me think we had won the tourney.
Hopefully the training staff emphasized the need to warm up and stretch the arms prior to such a strenuous bout of patting themselves on the back.
Maybe some people find it easier to stomach a lot of talk about "competing", "pride", "maintaining" and "playing the right way" after finishing up the season with consecutive losses to numbers 185, 177, 254 and 213.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 9, 2018 14:19:43 GMT -6
Playing the right way is obviously a goal and a damned important one, but it should not be the ONLY goal as whit seems to have made it. Still gotta win.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 14:21:56 GMT -6
Lets see. Here is what I would say: Our inability to contain their guards caused us problems in which we did not adjust. We had a couple of players miss point blank layups and free throws when the game was on the line and championship teams finish. We did not. I am terribly disappointed in the way we finished the season and losing 4 straight games to close out the season is not acceptable to me and our program. Our fans deserve better. It is obvious that we have to figure out a way to get tougher and that is on me. Ultimately, this game is about winning and we did not get it done. Excuses are for losers and there is no excuse for our play over the last 2 weeks. We have to get better and I have to get better!!! That might be what you want to hear, doubt any coach is going to deliver on all of that. Let's compromise on "Our inability to contain their guards caused us problems in which we did not (or could not) adjust. We did not make big plays we needed down the stretch. I am terribly disappointed in the way we finished the season" He can say "Our fans deserve better. It is obvious that we have to figure out a way to get tougher and that is on me." That's a great press conference line! But, he can also be "proud of the players and their effort." I see no reason to ignore mistakes completely but they did play hard and do a lot of things the right way, too. It is not contradictory to be proud of players and what you did right, but want to eliminate errors and improve. I am enough of a perfectionist that if I really expected us this year to be a championship team, maybe I would be even harder on them, and on myself for sure, than your statement. But that would be practice not in a public player shaming in the press. I do not join you in thinking these guys are ignoring the negatives, they feel horrible to lose and are disappointed and I think they expect us to realize that, not have to say it. "We lost, and that's the main thing that went wrong,” Coach K................ "If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good, then you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win games for you." Bear Bryant Whitford reminds me of a lot of people I have worked with. They want to move up the ladder, they want a promotion, they want to make more money, but they can't handle the additional accountability and responsibility that go along with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 14:24:33 GMT -6
Playing the right way is obviously a goal and a damned important one, but it should not be the ONLY goal as whit seems to have made it. Still gotta win. How exactly do you play the right way against an inferior opponent and lose.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 9, 2018 14:39:27 GMT -6
Playing the right way is obviously a goal and a damned important one, but it should not be the ONLY goal as whit seems to have made it. Still gotta win. How exactly do you play the right way against an inferior opponent and lose. The other team played “more right”? Or, maybe we played less right in key moments. Evidently “the right way” and playing well are two different things and we only need to play right to consider it a success. Playing well must not be part of the equation. Playing smart apparently didn’t make it in there either.
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Post by gocardsgo on Mar 9, 2018 16:27:50 GMT -6
Playing the right way is obviously a goal and a damned important one, but it should not be the ONLY goal as whit seems to have made it. Still gotta win. How exactly do you play the right way against an inferior opponent and lose. Well that's an easy question to answer. The opponent played the left way and caught us off guard. They all went southpaw on us!
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 9, 2018 16:58:05 GMT -6
Although I wouldn't mind it if Whitford went more along the lines of what Reevo suggested, I again can't get too worked up about the crap coaches feed the press.
In this case, I would be highly disappointed if he told the same thing to his team in private. My fear is that he is doing just that.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 9, 2018 17:07:36 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that he is, because they are repeating the exact same nonsense themselves.
But I suppose we should be relieved to know we are playing the "right way" because God knows how long of a losing steak we'd be on by playing the "wrong way". And with Whitford strongly committed to maintain the pace, we can look forward to another MAC tourney won game sometime during the next five years. So, when you stop and think about it, we're a really lucky fanbase.
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 9, 2018 17:31:03 GMT -6
I think it's pretty clear that he is, because they are repeating the exact same nonsense themselves.
But I suppose we should be relieved to know we are playing the "right way" because God knows how long of a losing steak we'd be on by playing the "wrong way". And with Whitford strongly committed to maintain the pace, we can look forward to another MAC tourney won game sometime during the next five years. So, when you stop and think about it, we're a really lucky fanbase. You're probably right, but I suspect it's probably not that hard to teach players a few lines to serve up to the press. Probably a lot easier than teaching them how to win.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 9, 2018 21:51:03 GMT -6
We will not be playing any post season tourneys this year. Probably a good decision.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 22:45:25 GMT -6
I'm completely with the people that do not want to play a bullshit tournament that WE pay to play. This is the mentality that encourages mediocrity.
Listen up Whitford. You had a team that had the talent to make the NCAA tourney and your incompetence F@$#ed it up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 13:52:10 GMT -6
Some logic thinks that playing in post-season tourneys gives your team some additional playing time and will pay benefits in the next season.
I think we have proven that logic to be completely wrong. BSU should not pay to play in any post season basketball tourney, particularly if it is not being televised for exposure of the university to the public.
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