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Post by gocardsgo on May 25, 2018 21:53:57 GMT -6
IU's winningest football coach and former head coach of both Miami and NIU passed away today at the age of 82
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Post by Bigfoot on May 25, 2018 23:41:48 GMT -6
Sorry to hear this news and I wonder what was the cause of death?
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Post by lmills72 on May 26, 2018 6:47:14 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 26, 2018 9:31:03 GMT -6
Classic coach, IU had little appreciation for the success he had. Myles Brand ran him out, showing genius of IU athletic administration.
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Post by CallingBS on May 26, 2018 12:08:18 GMT -6
Classic coach, IU had little appreciation for the success he had. Myles Brand ran him out, showing genius of IU athletic administration. He was a class act, and a good coach. If I am recalling correctly, it came out later that Bob Knight endorsing him publicly actually ended up hurting him. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 26, 2018 13:43:05 GMT -6
Classic coach, IU had little appreciation for the success he had. Myles Brand ran him out, showing genius of IU athletic administration. He was a class act, and a good coach. If I am recalling correctly, it came out later that Bob Knight endorsing him publicly actually ended up hurting him. I don't think that hurt him. The deal was done. But it pissed off Myles Brand. RMK could have cared less about that, and at he time he was invulnerable. Brand invited him to dinner and sat there and dissed Mallory and tried to coax Knight to support him in a decision already made. Naturally RMK responded by issuing a public support, and never forgave Brand.
Whatever his many flaws, Bob Knight appreciated and respected the good coaches and his coaching colleagues at IU, and resented the changes coming to amateur college sports.
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Post by bsu0 on May 26, 2018 15:22:17 GMT -6
Bill Mallory was the head at coach at Colorado also . He was the kind of coach that you would want your son to play for. He did not have one of the best records ever, but he was one of the most outstanding coaches ever...in any sport, for any university. Suddenly college football is not as fun as it used to be. I miss him already. A REAL GENTLEMAN, in the truest sense of the word.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 8:25:50 GMT -6
Classic coach, IU had little appreciation for the success he had. Myles Brand ran him out, showing genius of IU athletic administration. Oh please he won a single conference game in his final two seasons. That's going to get almost anyone fired. |
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Post by bsu0 on May 30, 2018 9:35:22 GMT -6
The lack of success that Mallory had in his last years in Bloomington is a perfect example of how hard it is to turn a basketball school into a contending football program. He was a great gentleman, a shining example of what a true coach should be. No one ever saw Bo in Ann Arbor walk into a visiting locker room after a defeat and compliment the visitors on a well played game.
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Post by 00hmh on May 30, 2018 11:07:24 GMT -6
Classic coach, IU had little appreciation for the success he had. Myles Brand ran him out, showing genius of IU athletic administration. Oh please he won a single conference game in his final two seasons. That's going to get almost anyone fired. It's IU football though, and he wasn't just anyone. Myles Brand was out to fire him from the get go.
Not that the decline was zero factor, and it was good cover. Excellence and winning would help his PR, but he had no clue how to do the excellence part, and far more concerned about controlling the PR message and being "Mr Best Practices" out of the President's book.
He was busy dismantling the Herman Wells IU. It has become less as an institution since. Not more excellent. And not in sports for sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 19:21:15 GMT -6
Oh please he won a single conference game in his final two seasons. That's going to get almost anyone fired. It's IU football though, and he wasn't just anyone. Myles Brand was out to fire him from the get go.
Not that the decline was zero factor, and it was good cover. Excellence and winning would help his PR, but he had no clue how to do the excellence part, and far more concerned about controlling the PR message and being "Mr Best Practices" out of the President's book.
He was busy dismantling the Herman Wells IU. It has become less as an institution since. Not more excellent. And not in sports for sure.
Oh please IU in the eighties and early nineties was a redneck shithole and the butt of jokes from coast to coast. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 30, 2018 19:27:30 GMT -6
It's IU football though, and he wasn't just anyone. Myles Brand was out to fire him from the get go.
Not that the decline was zero factor, and it was good cover. Excellence and winning would help his PR, but he had no clue how to do the excellence part, and far more concerned about controlling the PR message and being "Mr Best Practices" out of the President's book.
He was busy dismantling the Herman Wells IU. It has become less as an institution since. Not more excellent. And not in sports for sure.
Oh please IU in the eighties and early nineties was a redneck shithole and the butt of jokes from coast to coast. You have no idea who Herman Wells was and his impact.
His influence remained in the faculty benefits program and broad culture of a really great collection of programs, especially grad programs until the advent of Brand's corporate management style. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 19:52:26 GMT -6
Yeah you are so right, it didn't get any better than sitting through a game called by Chuck Marlowe and Ted Kitchel. Man what true professionals and ambassadors. Give it a rest IU was a freaking mess from top to bottom.
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Post by 00hmh on May 31, 2018 5:10:28 GMT -6
Yeah you are so right, it didn't get any better than sitting through a game called by Chuck Marlowe and Ted Kitchel. Man what true professionals and ambassadors. Give it a rest IU was a freaking mess from top to bottom. Guess I was considering other things more important to judge stature of a university. Silly me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 8:20:57 GMT -6
Yeah you are so right, it didn't get any better than sitting through a game called by Chuck Marlowe and Ted Kitchel. Man what true professionals and ambassadors. Give it a rest IU was a freaking mess from top to bottom. Guess I was considering other things more important to judge stature of a university. Silly me. Dude they were symptomatic of a much larger problem. The decision makers at IU were an "old boy network" of back slapping, red sweater wearing, cover-up artists. Instead of addressing problems like adults they just pretended they didn't exist. |
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