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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 12:55:13 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 30, 2018 13:19:02 GMT -6
Obviously a sacrifice of good, relevant information to the all-powerful god, Diversity.
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 30, 2018 16:24:58 GMT -6
Like test scores. You admit smart students who may have not achieved. Dave Letterman...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 18:41:04 GMT -6
Considering last years average graduating High School GPA was a 3.6, what could possibly go wrong. Standardized tests are more important now than ever before. We are in an era of mass grade inflation. This is asinine, but it's what I have come to expect from Ball State.
If you really want to have your eyes opened watch Last Chance U on Netflix, you wont believe the issues the academic adviser has to work through.
Thanks Ball State for devaluing academic standards and in-turn my degree.
I will never support this University again, I AM DONE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 18:45:04 GMT -6
Like test scores. You admit smart students who may have not achieved. Dave Letterman... How do you know they are smart without a benchmark ? |
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 30, 2018 19:36:05 GMT -6
Like test scores. You admit smart students who may have not achieved. Dave Letterman... How do you know they are smart without a benchmark ? Exam scores are correlated with IQ. They don't predict success as much as you would expect since work, discipline, and commitment really count, and are probably measured better by HS grades. But the high scores are often highly successful, even though rather often "underachieve." BSU does well with the grind it out B+ students, want stick with 4 year graduates. I value that, we have done well that way. But I am suggesting value in that high intelligence, I like the risky investment in potential very high achievement, too. That's why I mentioned Dave. |
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Post by DickHunsaker on Jul 30, 2018 21:06:52 GMT -6
Expect more schools to start doing this. University of Chicago (Top ten university in the world) announced they would be doing this earlier this year. Harvard Law school no longer requires the LSAT. I for one never did well on standardized testing (Average SAT/ACT) but graduated BSU in the top 25%.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jul 31, 2018 7:02:20 GMT -6
What do you expect from the Participation Award Generation?
Not to get off on a rant, but the constant dumbing down of American youth is not just an educational issue, but is quickly becoming a social and political problem.
This generation has become entitled, and ignorant of history. They are rapidly becoming socialists, because they simply don't know about what the USSR was like back during the Cold War. They think that it sounds great, having all of their needs covered by the government, so that they don't have to achieve anything to improve their socio-economic position; they're willing to do with less as long as everyone does the same. They value groupthink over individual responsibility. They believe they "deserve" everything for just being born.
Look at the popularity of Bernie Sanders and the Socialist that won the Democrat primary in New York. Socialism is making major inroads into US government, to the point where I believe that the US will be a socialist country within 30 years. I would've said 20 years before Trump got elected.
It truly is depressing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 7:14:15 GMT -6
What do you expect from the Participation Award Generation? Not to get off on a rant, but the constant dumbing down of American youth is not just an educational issue, but is quickly becoming a social and political problem. This generation has become entitled, and ignorant of history. They are rapidly becoming socialists, because they simply don't know about what the USSR was like back during the Cold War. They think that it sounds great, having all of their needs covered by the government, so that they don't have to achieve anything to improve their socio-economic position; they're willing to do with less as long as everyone does the same. They value groupthink over individual responsibility. They believe they "deserve" everything for just being born. Look at the popularity of Bernie Sanders and the Socialist that won the Democrat primary in New York. Socialism is making major inroads into US government, to the point where I believe that the US will be a socialist country within 30 years. I would've said 20 years before Trump got elected. It truly is depressing. That's how we end up with President Camacho...  |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jul 31, 2018 8:11:51 GMT -6
What do you expect from the Participation Award Generation? Not to get off on a rant, but the constant dumbing down of American youth is not just an educational issue, but is quickly becoming a social and political problem. This generation has become entitled, and ignorant of history. They are rapidly becoming socialists, because they simply don't know about what the USSR was like back during the Cold War. They think that it sounds great, having all of their needs covered by the government, so that they don't have to achieve anything to improve their socio-economic position; they're willing to do with less as long as everyone does the same. They value groupthink over individual responsibility. They believe they "deserve" everything for just being born. Look at the popularity of Bernie Sanders and the Socialist that won the Democrat primary in New York. Socialism is making major inroads into US government, to the point where I believe that the US will be a socialist country within 30 years. I would've said 20 years before Trump got elected. It truly is depressing.
My turn for a rant.
It drives me nuts when people trash millennial's for receiving participation awards. Who the heck do you think was giving them the participation awards? Did you expect the 7 year old who just lost a soccer tournament to lecture the baby boomers that rewards must be earned? If you want to criticize participation trophies blame the dumbasses handing them out and paying for them, not the kid who gets handed the garbage and told to celebrate it.
I don't disagree with your general analysis, but it's not a generational thing. Look at 00, I don't know for sure but I get the impression that he's of retirement age. He's as nasty a socialist as can be. Bernie Sanders is no millennial either. A retiree who hangs around my office showed me a video joking about a new "adopt a millennial" program where retirees can donate to fund our lifestyles since we think we're entitled to everything. I told him to enjoy the social security check he is siphoning off my labor.
Millennials are stuck with what prior generations left us. We aren't the ones who eroded the concept of private property. We aren't the ones who made indebtedness the cultural norm. We aren't the ones who allowed the federal reserve and the income tax to be established. We aren't the ones that gave government control of the schools. The US already is socialist. It was socialist when we were born. We are the product of socialism; not its harbinger.
It is depressing to see anyone give Bernie Sanders a second thought; but I'd discourage you from painting with a broad brush. I'm a highly-educated, historically-aware, hard-working, libertarian, frugal, responsible, capitalist millennial. And I'm fighting the 00's and Bernie's of the world every day. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jul 31, 2018 11:58:48 GMT -6
What do you expect from the Participation Award Generation? Not to get off on a rant, but the constant dumbing down of American youth is not just an educational issue, but is quickly becoming a social and political problem. This generation has become entitled, and ignorant of history. They are rapidly becoming socialists, because they simply don't know about what the USSR was like back during the Cold War. They think that it sounds great, having all of their needs covered by the government, so that they don't have to achieve anything to improve their socio-economic position; they're willing to do with less as long as everyone does the same. They value groupthink over individual responsibility. They believe they "deserve" everything for just being born. Look at the popularity of Bernie Sanders and the Socialist that won the Democrat primary in New York. Socialism is making major inroads into US government, to the point where I believe that the US will be a socialist country within 30 years. I would've said 20 years before Trump got elected. It truly is depressing.
My turn for a rant.
It drives me nuts when people trash millennial's for receiving participation awards. Who the heck do you think was giving them the participation awards? Did you expect the 7 year old who just lost a soccer tournament to lecture the baby boomers that rewards must be earned? If you want to criticize participation trophies blame the dumbasses handing them out and paying for them, not the kid who gets handed the garbage and told to celebrate it.
I don't disagree with your general analysis, but it's not a generational thing. Look at 00, I don't know for sure but I get the impression that he's of retirement age. He's as nasty a socialist as can be. Bernie Sanders is no millennial either. A retiree who hangs around my office showed me a video joking about a new "adopt a millennial" program where retirees can donate to fund our lifestyles since we think we're entitled to everything. I told him to enjoy the social security check he is siphoning off my labor.
Millennials are stuck with what prior generations left us. We aren't the ones who eroded the concept of private property. We aren't the ones who made indebtedness the cultural norm. We aren't the ones who allowed the federal reserve and the income tax to be established. We aren't the ones that gave government control of the schools. The US already is socialist. It was socialist when we were born. We are the product of socialism; not its harbinger.
It is depressing to see anyone give Bernie Sanders a second thought; but I'd discourage you from painting with a broad brush. I'm a highly-educated, historically-aware, hard-working, libertarian, frugal, responsible, capitalist millennial. And I'm fighting the 00's and Bernie's of the world every day. I agree that millennials are not wholly at fault for their shortcomings. Boomers (and by extension, GenXers) have done a total disservice to today's youth by being helicopter parents, and insisting that their kid is entitled to everything. Maybe my perception is skewed by being around college students, so that is what I usually see. Obviously there are exceptions, but by and large, millennials are in serious trouble. I'm a GenXer, and probably 15 - 20 years from retiring, and I honestly fear what the growing wave of socialism will do to this country in my Golden Years. What's funny is that I used to like Sanders, even though I'm a moderate right conservative. Before 2016, he at least appeared to have the public's best interest at heart, even if his economics were screwed. I thought he was the candidate who was most genuinely concerned with the plight of the "common man". And at least he was honest about being a socialist. But when Hillary bought him off after the primaries, I lost all respect for him. |
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Post by DickHunsaker on Jul 31, 2018 17:42:09 GMT -6
My turn for a rant.
It drives me nuts when people trash millennial's for receiving participation awards. Who the heck do you think was giving them the participation awards? Did you expect the 7 year old who just lost a soccer tournament to lecture the baby boomers that rewards must be earned? If you want to criticize participation trophies blame the dumbasses handing them out and paying for them, not the kid who gets handed the garbage and told to celebrate it.
I don't disagree with your general analysis, but it's not a generational thing. Look at 00, I don't know for sure but I get the impression that he's of retirement age. He's as nasty a socialist as can be. Bernie Sanders is no millennial either. A retiree who hangs around my office showed me a video joking about a new "adopt a millennial" program where retirees can donate to fund our lifestyles since we think we're entitled to everything. I told him to enjoy the social security check he is siphoning off my labor.
Millennials are stuck with what prior generations left us. We aren't the ones who eroded the concept of private property. We aren't the ones who made indebtedness the cultural norm. We aren't the ones who allowed the federal reserve and the income tax to be established. We aren't the ones that gave government control of the schools. The US already is socialist. It was socialist when we were born. We are the product of socialism; not its harbinger.
It is depressing to see anyone give Bernie Sanders a second thought; but I'd discourage you from painting with a broad brush. I'm a highly-educated, historically-aware, hard-working, libertarian, frugal, responsible, capitalist millennial. And I'm fighting the 00's and Bernie's of the world every day. I agree that millennials are not wholly at fault for their shortcomings. Boomers (and by extension, GenXers) have done a total disservice to today's youth by being helicopter parents, and insisting that their kid is entitled to everything. Maybe my perception is skewed by being around college students, so that is what I usually see. Obviously there are exceptions, but by and large, millennials are in serious trouble. I'm a GenXer, and probably 15 - 20 years from retiring, and I honestly fear what the growing wave of socialism will do to this country in my Golden Years. What's funny is that I used to like Sanders, even though I'm a moderate right conservative. Before 2016, he at least appeared to have the public's best interest at heart, even if his economics were screwed. I thought he was the candidate who was most genuinely concerned with the plight of the "common man". And at least he was honest about being a socialist. But when Hillary bought him off after the primaries, I lost all respect for him. You should be more afraid of what Conservatives are going to do to your social security and medicare. Take a look at countries like Norway and other Scandinavian countries as a model for what the "Socialists" want to do to America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 20:32:49 GMT -6
I agree that millennials are not wholly at fault for their shortcomings. Boomers (and by extension, GenXers) have done a total disservice to today's youth by being helicopter parents, and insisting that their kid is entitled to everything. Maybe my perception is skewed by being around college students, so that is what I usually see. Obviously there are exceptions, but by and large, millennials are in serious trouble. I'm a GenXer, and probably 15 - 20 years from retiring, and I honestly fear what the growing wave of socialism will do to this country in my Golden Years. What's funny is that I used to like Sanders, even though I'm a moderate right conservative. Before 2016, he at least appeared to have the public's best interest at heart, even if his economics were screwed. I thought he was the candidate who was most genuinely concerned with the plight of the "common man". And at least he was honest about being a socialist. But when Hillary bought him off after the primaries, I lost all respect for him. You should be more afraid of what Conservatives are going to do to your social security and medicare. Take a look at countries like Norway and other Scandinavian countries as a model for what the "Socialists" want to do to America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_modelSocial Security was pissed away long ago as the federal government borrowed against the funds (bipartisan). Also, when the damn thing was modeled in the 1930's, the actuaries did not consider the longevity of those that would retire. The model was never sustainable. Socialism, as practiced in the Nordic countries does not scale as would be necessary to work in the U.S. Countries in the population range of 5 to 10 million do not have the infrastructure load of a 330 million person country. Also, our defense requirement would overwhelm a socialist model. |
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Post by DickHunsaker on Jul 31, 2018 21:58:07 GMT -6
You should be more afraid of what Conservatives are going to do to your social security and medicare. Take a look at countries like Norway and other Scandinavian countries as a model for what the "Socialists" want to do to America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_modelSocial Security was pissed away long ago as the federal government borrowed against the funds (bipartisan). Also, when the damn thing was modeled in the 1930's, the actuaries did not consider the longevity of those that would retire. The model was never sustainable. Socialism, as practiced in the Nordic countries does not scale as would be necessary to work in the U.S. Countries in the population range of 5 to 10 million do not have the infrastructure load of a 330 million person country. Also, our defense requirement would overwhelm a socialist model. True, the borrowing of funds is a negative consequence. The problem is too many people are becoming eligible with too few people working. Reforms are probably necessary, but the program can be enhanced. I don't buy the argument about scaling, a recent study by a conservative think tank, just discovered that a national heath plan would save trillions of dollars in just one decade. When people aren't covered and go to the ER, we pick up the tab in higher costs. The bigger the pool, the lower the costs. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 1, 2018 7:29:00 GMT -6
True, the borrowing of funds is a negative consequence. The problem is too many people are becoming eligible with too few people working. Reforms are probably necessary, but the program can be enhanced. I don't buy the argument about scaling, a recent study by a conservative think tank, just discovered that a national heath plan would save trillions of dollars in just one decade. When people aren't covered and go to the ER, we pick up the tab in higher costs. The bigger the pool, the lower the costs. Scaling not the problem. It is whether some kind of American brand of socialism would have a disastrous impact on economic activity relative to the world and cause dramatic economic harm.
Nor is health care on the model necessarily a problem. That is a relatively modest tax burden to provide health care which has pluses in keeping labor productive and pluses in reducing the costs to everyone else around them when illness devastates a family. The change we made in the 60's adopting Medicare has generally been a plus on both counts. So, changing to some kind of Medicare for all has pluses and minuses, and I doubt it is catastrophic.
Since most of the developed world has some kind of heath care system along the lines of the Nordic countries, and since we would be so very unlikely to radically eliminate property rights, I can't see a terrible economic disadvantage, or some advantage that we lose. Especially since such systems seem to have much lower administrative costs than our bloated monopolistic insurance/health care system.
The main impact would be higher taxes and slightly more wealth redistribution than at present. The debate should be about that. Of course, those who believe a Libertarian utopia is possible would strongly disagree.
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