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Post by thebsukid on Sept 9, 2018 20:09:21 GMT -6
Love we are 14 point dogs! Don’t think the line will hold! Cards will cover easily!
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Sept 10, 2018 8:11:27 GMT -6
This will be a difficult game. After last week, they won’t be looking past us. I somehow hope their typical arrogance will work in our favor. They are more athletic than us. Just like at ND, it will be determined by our Dline being able to cause disruption. If not, well.........
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 10, 2018 8:44:49 GMT -6
I think we're giving IU too much credit. Virginia is awful, so beating them at home wasn't huge.
Containing Scott will be the priority. Stop him and we have a really good shot, as long as we can put points up. If it gets into an offensive shootout, I don't see up winning that scenario, but keep the score low...
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Post by bsu0 on Sept 10, 2018 8:53:25 GMT -6
The 3-4 worked against ND well. If we are clever with our schemes and mix them up I am confident we can cause a little chaos in the backfield. The trick will be to keep their running game corraled. We will take some chances which usually we could potentially give up some big plays. Let's hope we don't give up too many. If they hurt us early with running we may have to put a spy on their 230 lb running back. Their head coach is a defensive guru which generally means he likes to run. That could make us vulnerable to play action. We can't have the d-backs biting on the fakes and leaving receivers wide open. If we can accomplish everyone taking care of their responsibilities we can hold them to 17 points. 34-17 Ball State University.
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Post by redbirdman on Sept 10, 2018 9:13:15 GMT -6
You should take the 14 points. We have beaten the spread over 80% of the time when we play a Big Ten School.
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Post by IU_ND_BSU_FAN on Sept 10, 2018 9:43:30 GMT -6
I think we're giving IU too much credit. Virginia is awful, so beating them at home wasn't huge. Containing Scott will be the priority. Stop him and we have a really good shot, as long as we can put points up. If it gets into an offensive shootout, I don't see up winning that scenario, but keep the score low... FWIW-Jeff Sagarin has UVA ranked at 66th. IU at 60th and Ball State at 110th. sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htmI do think we will keep it close but IU will pull away in the 2nd half. Maybe we can crack the top 100 at some point this year??
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Post by cardrock on Sept 10, 2018 9:51:46 GMT -6
I’ll work on the score, I think this is one of those reach up & surprise you games. I’m betting Cards win over there in Bloomington, the boys will work on what they need to, coaches will layout a game plan, it’ll work, they pull out a win. Give me a day I’ll get a score down. Go Cards!!!
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Post by mattg on Sept 10, 2018 10:35:25 GMT -6
Does IU run an uptempo offense? I have not watched much of their games lately. Seems like they have a Huntley-sized bell cow RB. Not sure what his conditioning is, but I see that he has a lot of carries through two games. I'm seeing a lot of posts about stopping him being the key and I tend to agree with that. During the ND game, their RB ran away from us a lot, not through us like this IU RB might do based upon his size. I'm interested to see how we might handle this smashmouth-type of attack.
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Post by cardfan on Sept 10, 2018 10:51:20 GMT -6
He’s bigger than Huntley. 6’2 230. He’s linebacker size.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 10, 2018 10:53:30 GMT -6
For those that have interest about just some of BSU National rankings:
Here is a sample:
Named one of the best universities in the Midwest by The Princeton Review for 14 years. Designated a doctoral university: higher research activity by The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. Carnegie FoundationEarned the Community Engagement Classification from the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. The classification recognizes colleges and universities that demonstrate an institution-wide commitment to public service, civic involvement, and community partnerships. Received a Higher Education Excellence in Diversity (HEED) Award from Insight into Diversity in 2016 and 2017. This honor is for exemplary initiatives focusing on all aspects of diversity and inclusion, including gender, race, ethnicity, veterans, people with disabilities, and members of the LGBTQ community.
Ranked in the top 20 in the country for three graduate programs in U.S. News & World Report's 2017 “Best Online Programs”: MBA was 12th, nursing was 13th, and education was 16th. U.S. News also ranked our online bachelor’s programs 36th. Recognized as the first higher education institution in the country to earn Quality Matters’ Learner Support Program Certification. Quality Matters, known as QM, provides a nationally recognized standard of best practices for online and blended learning. Ranked in U.S. News & World Report’s 2015 “Best Online Programs for Veterans” at No. 7 in graduate education, No. 14 in MBA, No. 22 in graduate nursing, and No. 29 in bachelor’s programs. Named a Military Friendly School for nine years by Victory Media. In 2018, Victory Media also ranked our online programs No. 8 in the country.
Our Department of Architecture is Indiana's only state-supported architecture program. Ball State’s fourth-year architecture studio was named one of the nation’s seven best courses in sustainable design in 2016 by Architecture 2030. Students are designing and building a home that will produce all the energy it needs from renewable sources. The course will receive support from Architecture 2030, a nonprofit organization that seeks solutions to climate change in the built environment. DesignIntelligence has consistently ranked our landscape architecture programs in the top 15 in the country. In 2016, the undergraduate program was ranked No. 6 and our graduate program, No. 12. Hiring professionals also placed Ball State in the top five for communication skills, construction methods and materials, cross-disciplinary teamwork, and design.
Our entrepreneurial management program was ranked 20th in the nation in 2017 by The Princeton Review and Entrepreneur magazine. Students may receive assistance in starting their own businesses through a business incubator program that fosters entrepreneurial activity in the community, particularly within the growing communications and information technology sectors.
Public Accounting Report’s 2015 survey of accounting professors ranked our undergraduate accounting program seventh in the nation among those of similar size and the master’s program, 15th.
Sportscasters Talent Agency of America named Ball State the No. 3 sports broadcasting school in the country in 2017.
Ball State has Indiana's largest theatre and dance program.
2017 is the third year in a row that The Daily Meal has included Ball State in its “Best Colleges for Food in America.” Chowhound included Ball State on “17 Colleges with the Best Food” in 2017.
Our athletic programs received high multiyear Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores in 2015. The Ball State women’s golf team posted a perfect score of 1,000. Five other teams had scores better than 990—women’s volleyball (995), men’s swimming and diving (994), cross country (992), women’s tennis (992), and men’s volleyball (991). APR is a measure of each team's academic performance, accounting for eligibility, retention, and graduation.
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Post by IU_ND_BSU_FAN on Sept 10, 2018 11:04:05 GMT -6
For those that have interest about just some of BSU National rankings: Here is a sample: Named one of the best universities in the Midwest by The Princeton Review for 14 years. Designated a doctoral university: higher research activity by The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. Carnegie FoundationEarned the Community Engagement Classification from the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. The classification recognizes colleges and universities that demonstrate an institution-wide commitment to public service, civic involvement, and community partnerships. Received a Higher Education Excellence in Diversity (HEED) Award from Insight into Diversity in 2016 and 2017. This honor is for exemplary initiatives focusing on all aspects of diversity and inclusion, including gender, race, ethnicity, veterans, people with disabilities, and members of the LGBTQ community. Ranked in the top 20 in the country for three graduate programs in U.S. News & World Report's 2017 “Best Online Programs”: MBA was 12th, nursing was 13th, and education was 16th. U.S. News also ranked our online bachelor’s programs 36th. Recognized as the first higher education institution in the country to earn Quality Matters’ Learner Support Program Certification. Quality Matters, known as QM, provides a nationally recognized standard of best practices for online and blended learning. Ranked in U.S. News & World Report’s 2015 “Best Online Programs for Veterans” at No. 7 in graduate education, No. 14 in MBA, No. 22 in graduate nursing, and No. 29 in bachelor’s programs. Named a Military Friendly School for nine years by Victory Media. In 2018, Victory Media also ranked our online programs No. 8 in the country. Our Department of Architecture is Indiana's only state-supported architecture program. Ball State’s fourth-year architecture studio was named one of the nation’s seven best courses in sustainable design in 2016 by Architecture 2030. Students are designing and building a home that will produce all the energy it needs from renewable sources. The course will receive support from Architecture 2030, a nonprofit organization that seeks solutions to climate change in the built environment. DesignIntelligence has consistently ranked our landscape architecture programs in the top 15 in the country. In 2016, the undergraduate program was ranked No. 6 and our graduate program, No. 12. Hiring professionals also placed Ball State in the top five for communication skills, construction methods and materials, cross-disciplinary teamwork, and design. Our entrepreneurial management program was ranked 20th in the nation in 2017 by The Princeton Review and Entrepreneur magazine. Students may receive assistance in starting their own businesses through a business incubator program that fosters entrepreneurial activity in the community, particularly within the growing communications and information technology sectors. Public Accounting Report’s 2015 survey of accounting professors ranked our undergraduate accounting program seventh in the nation among those of similar size and the master’s program, 15th. Sportscasters Talent Agency of America named Ball State the No. 3 sports broadcasting school in the country in 2017. Ball State has Indiana's largest theatre and dance program. 2017 is the third year in a row that The Daily Meal has included Ball State in its “Best Colleges for Food in America.” Chowhound included Ball State on “17 Colleges with the Best Food” in 2017. Our athletic programs received high multiyear Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores in 2015. The Ball State women’s golf team posted a perfect score of 1,000. Five other teams had scores better than 990—women’s volleyball (995), men’s swimming and diving (994), cross country (992), women’s tennis (992), and men’s volleyball (991). APR is a measure of each team's academic performance, accounting for eligibility, retention, and graduation. Huh? Did you get your BSU degree online? I sure didn't!!
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 10, 2018 11:12:51 GMT -6
No, I didn't either, however, many top universities offer online degrees today!!!
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 10, 2018 11:56:53 GMT -6
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Post by cardrock on Sept 10, 2018 13:54:13 GMT -6
I think we're giving IU too much credit. Virginia is awful, so beating them at home wasn't huge. Containing Scott will be the priority. Stop him and we have a really good shot, as long as we can put points up. If it gets into an offensive shootout, I don't see up winning that scenario, but keep the score low... FWIW-Jeff Sagarin has UVA ranked at 66th. IU at 60th and Ball State at 110th. sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htmI do think we will keep it close but IU will pull away in the 2nd half. Maybe we can crack the top 100 at some point this year?? What was ND rating?
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Post by fkfootball on Sept 10, 2018 17:55:05 GMT -6
What's up guys? I'll start off with telling you, that I am an IU fan. I am not here to troll you. I'm just here to give my thoughts on this contest. I generally cheer for Ball State to win other than Saturday, obviously.
Ok. So, I'll be the 1st to admit that I know very little about your team. I do know that your QB is solid and the best we have faced to this point. I do know that Gilbert is a gifted Tailback and will cause some issues.
Reasons I am optimistic: As an IU fan, of 20 years, this is the best roster I have ever seen here. Almost every guy in our 2 deep had multiple power 5 offers. This is a far cry from the Bill Lynch MAC caliber(no pun intended) recruiting classes of the past. We have more size, speed, and depth than we've ever had. QB play. We have already beat 2 bowl teams from last year. They weren't world beaters, but somewhat competitive teams.The last few times we have faced you, we had Richard Lagow, Cam Coffman, and Dusty Kiel at QB. None of those 3 guys are anywhere close to the 2 QBs we will use right now in Peyton Ramsey and Micheal Penix, who has some star potential. Obviously you guys know about Scott. Majette is a decent RB too. Our O-line is the best unit on our team. I would never compare IU to Notre Dame, but our O-line is better and deeper than theirs. We have some "dudes" there. Our WRs are TALL. Another good unit. Defensively, our secondary is way better than what we normally run out vs BSU. Defensive coaching. For what seemed liked 15 years, IU had a defense rated in the 100s. Thanks to Tom Allen, he improved the defense from 118th to 40th in 1 season in total defense as DC. And from 40th to 25th in his 2nd season as HC/DC And, lack of surprise. Ball State normally sneaks up on us or catches an arrogant IU team off guard. Not happening with Tom Allen. Kevin Wilson, Bill Lynch, those guys are very poor leaders. Tom Allen is probably telling his team how great you guys are, all the wins you've had over us the past 10 years, etc. They'll be ready. They wont overlook you.
Reasons I am pessimistic: Its football. Sometimes you don't play well, and the other team does. MAC teams have beaten Big Ten teams, plenty. This fact isn't lost on me. Riley Neal. He could give us trouble. We have good players in coverage. But they cant cover all day. The weakest part of our team right now is the pass rush. We have faced 2 mobile QBs, so that hasn't helped, but right now we lack dynamic pass rushers. That's the last piece that Allen needs. Our D-line is more of a Yeoman line. They play hard, they defend the run ok, but it's not an extremely disruptive line. Gavin Everett is a nice DE though. LB wise, we lost 2 to the NFL/Gradution. We are young here. This unit played much better against Virginia but they still have a ways to go with recognition. Special teams wise, we have a very good P, but our K and KO specialist are suspect replacing a 2 time All-Big Ten K. We had 2 kicks blocked last Saturday and 1 was returned for 2 pts. Our KO return is pedestrian at best. Not as many things worry me as in years p past, but still issues that can haunt.
Outlook: I would never be delusional enough to prematurely count this game as a win. I respect your program. And I expect you guys to be one of the better MAC teams. I do like that it's at IU. I do feel more confident with a headstrong coach like Tom Allen. And the talent gap between the 2 teams is the most it's been in decades. Even at that, I expect a competitive game.
Prediction: I have IU winning 28-17. I just think that our running game, intermediate passing game, and Tom Allen's defensive scheming will get it done as it has so far this season.
Best of luck the rest of the season.
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