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Post by 00hmh on Jan 1, 2019 14:16:07 GMT -6
OTOH, in your favor supporting your sweeping logic for success through paying low salaries..............
What the f--k are you talking about ? Is it even possible for you accurately portray anyone's thoughts. You argue we can hire great coaches at low pay. That is magical thinking.
We actually did a win a bet with Whit who was hired cheap. I explained above how that supports your argument. Weakly.
There is a very low probability we can do better next time following that strategy, but you think we'll win that low probability bet, I don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 15:52:31 GMT -6
Good catch. People here seem to want that kind of performance level. Why can't we do that they say.
Hey dumbass, Gregg Marshall was the same guy when he was making $250,000/year and taking Winthrop to seven tourney appearances. Do you think elite coaches start-off making huge paychecks ? You might be the dumbest human walking the planet. ....and a very Happy NewYear to one and all!!! ๐ป๐พ๐ธ
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Post by sweep on Jan 1, 2019 16:14:14 GMT -6
What the f--k are you talking about ? Is it even possible for you accurately portray anyone's thoughts. You argue we can hire great coaches at low pay. That is magical thinking.
Where did I say that ? I never used the words great or low pay. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature would understand my point is the ability to make correct hiring decisions is more important than the compensation package. Seriously, are you going to argue elite coaches didn't enter the profession at much lower salaries than they eventually make. In four seasons Chris Holtmann went from making $165,000 a year at Gardner Webb to $3,000,000 at Ohio State. His coaching ability was equal at both universities. You keep bragging about what a bargain Whitford is, okay, then why hasn't anyone offered him more money ? Do you spend any amount of time in the real world ?
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 1, 2019 16:25:43 GMT -6
That is ridiculous. You think he learned nothing on his first job?
That he developed no contacts?
That his reputation did not improve his ability to recruit effectively?
No differences?
But the main point is that while coaches are out there somewhere, there is no magic way to select the relatively few coaches who don't have a track record but WILL.
20-20 hindsight is not a strategy you can follow.
An employer can only choose from the applicant pool the job attracts. How exactly do you make those previously unproven and unknown good coaches apply?
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Post by sweep on Jan 1, 2019 16:32:17 GMT -6
there is no magic way to select the relatively few coaches who don't have a track record but WILL. Who wants to use magic, it takes a solid AD who makes good decisions. One rule of thumb is don't hire a guy who has been turned down by twenty + other schools and works for a gigantic ass clown named Sean Miller.
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Post by sweep on Jan 1, 2019 16:38:21 GMT -6
An employer can only choose from the applicant pool the job attracts. How exactly do you make those previously unproven and unknown good coaches apply? You ever heard of an AD picking-up the phone and gauging the interest of someone who will be a good fit. You honestly have no clue how the real world works. Seriously who the hell hires productive professionals from applications.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 1, 2019 16:38:39 GMT -6
Hey dumbass, Gregg Marshall was the same guy when he was making $250,000/year and taking Winthrop to seven tourney appearances. Do you think elite coaches start-off making huge paychecks ? You might be the dumbest human walking the planet. ....and a very Happy NewYear to one and all!!! ๐ป๐พ๐ธ Dysfunction Junction
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 18:59:45 GMT -6
....and a very Happy NewYear to one and all!!! ๐ป๐พ๐ธ Dysfunction Junction Donโt get me started or I wonโt be drinking beer with you at the Eastern game! Am I allowed to socialize with folks that sit on the cushy fold-up chairs w/o an event pass?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 1, 2019 19:46:41 GMT -6
You can do anything you like but prepared for some odd looks as people are not used to seeing new faces.. If anyone gives you grief just say you know Calhoun.. Ok better not do that, tell them you know cardfan
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Post by cardfan on Jan 1, 2019 20:27:43 GMT -6
You can do anything you like but prepared for some odd looks as people are not used to seeing new faces.. If anyone gives you grief just say you know Calhoun.. Ok better not do that, tell them you no cardfan Iโm not sure which will get him in more trouble.
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Post by proctorp on Jan 2, 2019 16:29:24 GMT -6
We can't pay nearly enough. Couldn't even get Dakich. Dakich was never under consideration. Thank God!
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Post by CallingBS on Jan 3, 2019 10:26:31 GMT -6
Dakich was never under consideration. But surely you'd be happy to see him replace Whit? But as I said we couldn't afford him anyway. I can't even begin to understand this post. Dakich miserably failed as a MAC coach, and would never even be considered as a viable candidate for our head coaching job.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jan 3, 2019 10:34:38 GMT -6
You argue we can hire great coaches at low pay. That is magical thinking.
Where did I say that ? I never used the words great or low pay. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature would understand my point is the ability to make correct hiring decisions is more important than the compensation package. Seriously, are you going to argue elite coaches didn't enter the profession at much lower salaries than they eventually make. In four seasons Chris Holtmann went from making $165,000 a year at Gardner Webb to $3,000,000 at Ohio State. His coaching ability was equal at both universities. You keep bragging about what a bargain Whitford is, okay, then why hasn't anyone offered him more money ? Do you spend any amount of time in the real world ? This reminds me of a story Urban Meyer tells. When he was offered the Bowling Green head coaching job (his first HC gig) he told Lou Holtz that he didn't think it was a very good position. Holtz told him that of course it wasn't a good position and if it was a good position they wouldn't be interested in Meyer for it.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 3, 2019 10:52:12 GMT -6
But surely you'd be happy to see him replace Whit? But as I said we couldn't afford him anyway. I can't even begin to understand this post. Dakich miserably failed as a MAC coach, and would never even be considered as a viable candidate for our head coaching job. Well since Whit is the Devil incarnate to some, I assumed Dakich would look good. I tend to agree with you, he has achieved his ideal job posting as a shock jock sports guru. Absolutely no requirements or standards for that.
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Post by sweep on Jan 3, 2019 11:01:56 GMT -6
I can't even begin to understand this post. Dakich miserably failed as a MAC coach, and would never even be considered as a viable candidate for our head coaching job. Well since Whit is the Devil incarnate to some, I assumed Dakich would look good. I tend to agree with you, he has achieved his ideal job posting as a shock jock sports guru. Absolutely no requirements or standards for that. The day Whitford was hired I said "This is a guy whom, under ideal circumstances, can get to twenty wins, but that's it." I don't remember comparing him to the devil.
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