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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 12, 2019 7:53:31 GMT -6
Maybe that's why our non-con schedule is so pathetic most years. Pad the wins to 20, get a nice bonus.
Good gig if you can get it.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 12, 2019 8:10:26 GMT -6
Maybe that's why our non-con schedule is so pathetic most years. Pad the wins to 20, get a nice bonus. Good gig if you can get it. It’s exactly why it’s been so soft. Wining 7 games a year wasn’t gonna work so the cupcakes were added two years in a row. Gotta get to 20 somehow.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 12, 2019 8:23:59 GMT -6
I don't think adding all the incentive in the world would have done much to help the first two years. It was not will to win that was the problem.
Recent schedules have not been bad at all. I see no gripe with the last two years. Escept the home opener this year...which was a scheduling issue to get a game for some reason. This year overall good home dates, in state rivals on the road, and the Hawaii tournament.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 12, 2019 8:27:18 GMT -6
Yep it was a poorly coached team playing decent teams that was the problem. Whitford took over a .500 program and won 5 and 7 games. He chose process over results. He said so himself at the time. Had to fix the culture you know. (Well fix the culture but give Tyler too many chances)
The following two seasons had literally some of the lowest rated SOS in the country.
But there will always be excuses and rationalizations.
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Post by sweep on Nov 12, 2019 8:44:29 GMT -6
This year overall good home dates Defiance Northern Kentucky Howard Western Illinois Loyola, Chicago IUPUI Dude are you stupid, there isn't a Sagarin Top 150 on that entire list. "Overall good" ? There isn't a single good team on it.
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Post by david75bsu on Nov 12, 2019 9:03:40 GMT -6
I could not agree more Tarheel; maybe then we could hire the bb coach that many desire! Even if we put all our eggs in a basketball basket, you can’t play 18 of your 28 games against MAC opponents every year and consider yourself ready to play the other conferences. Besides that; Not once have I looked forward to a MAC basketball or football game and said to myself “I can’t wait to go to that______(fill in the MAC blank) game and beat those _______(fill in the MAC mascot blank)!” After all these 45+ years, there is no annual MAC rivalry between BSU and any other school. The Mid American Conference is failing it’s members in almost every aspect of their management. I dare to say that the conference has gotten significantly “competitive worse” since we tied ourselves to the ESPN devil. The entire football world belongs ESPN. but, it has killed MAC football. Weekday games have not been of any help to MAC football.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 12, 2019 9:13:51 GMT -6
This year overall good home dates Defiance Northern Kentucky Howard Western Illinois Loyola, Chicago IUPUI Dude are you stupid, there isn't a Sagarin Top 150 on that entire list. "Overall good" ? There isn't a single good team on it. I have no problem with a couple of cupcakes on the home schedule if we have some teams that are good regional rivals. Howard is the question mark in terms of bringing in schools in locations where we recruit and where local fans will not have much interest.
You apparently have no idea how hard it is to get good opponents into Worthen. The only way we will schedule top 100 teams is to go on the road usually. I like Loyola, NKU and IUPUI. These are schools which represent regional rivals and good competition, teams like these we should try to regularly schedule home and home along with Evansville.
Defiance I am sure was a problem date where we had to get a game scheduled, not a priority choice.
The tournament with its requirement to play on the road in Georgia chewed up a lot of dates on the schedule. But the quality road opponents and national audience seem a good trade off.
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 12, 2019 10:46:30 GMT -6
I would like to see us play Wright State as I doubt we can ever get a home & home with Dayton. I also think though we may lose more than we want to see we should go home & home with Purdue-Ft Wayne at least 4 times a decade maybe trade off with Wright State. An play them on a Saturday that might bring a few fans to both locations.
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Post by comet on Nov 12, 2019 11:07:33 GMT -6
I really liked the home and home with Evansville that we had last year. I'd like to see the same with some other schools. Yeh, maybe Wright State, Fort Wayne and IUPUI. Heck, that would give us 8 petty good non-conference games a year, with very little travel.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 12, 2019 12:15:15 GMT -6
NKU is a pretty good opponent to have this season, and in the future. I'd like to see us get WKU again, and SIU, Ill State, and maybe a B1G team. Plenty of teams close by to schedule and not break the bank on travel.
Howard is on the schedule because they're cheap, and since it's an HBCU... well, with a "woke" admin, you can draw your own conclusions.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 12, 2019 19:05:55 GMT -6
Football is here to stay, at what level is the question.
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Post by redfeather on Nov 12, 2019 21:05:47 GMT -6
General, as much as I agree that highly creative and risky decision making could turn out well, conservative higher administration, BOT, and state officials are all risk adverse. The big problem is the case where the decision goes wrong. Which could happen even if the right decision. A career killer for the AD, big trouble for higher ups, with ultimately the politicians upset and state funding jeapordised. Ironically JAG took virtually no flack for her top down mismanagement of athletics. Ultimately it was mostly penny pinching based...and yet longer term, budget killing. Nobody in power much cared about athletic results. Spending money when needed was not considered. And you have to wonder if we had and it led to success if anybody in the legislature would care. They do with IU and to lesser extent at PU. This kind of gets to my point, the apathy for BSU sports starts with a lack of interest from the state legislators and governor, who appoints the BOT who are not driven to hire a President that cares about winning and coaching hires are marginal at best and the results are our program sucks!
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Post by proctorp on Nov 12, 2019 21:17:07 GMT -6
The MAC has tried playing football every night of the week to try and stay relevant. It hasn’t worked. It’s appalling to see the stands with no one there. There are no story lines for the announcers to embellish. There are no “name” players to promote. “Cradle of Coaches” is just a phrase from the past nowadays. Pull the plug on this travesty. The conference headquarters has got to be the only part this charade that is showing positive cash. If our blessed university is truly in the dire financial straits that I keep reading about on here, then any board or president should be be held accountable for running such a deficit in one particular area while making cuts in other worthwhile areas of the institution. This “front porch” of the university scam has outlived it’s usefulness as a valid excuse. Totally agree.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 13, 2019 9:11:02 GMT -6
Drop football to Butlers level and focus on a sport where mid level schools sometimes can compete
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 13, 2019 10:18:42 GMT -6
We'd have to find a new conference.
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