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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 14:50:03 GMT -6
Capacity crowd; students in attendence; students even painting their bodies; aggressive physical play; ball movement; following the shot for a putback??? What kind of wizardry was at play? Truly an enchanted era.
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 23, 2020 16:08:05 GMT -6
My favorite Ball State basketball coach ever, Dick Hunsaker! He loved Ball State. Had more energy on the bench during and after the game than any coach before or after. He got screwed. We should/ would be watching him today had things not have happened. Loved the energy. Loved the defense. Did you see the thickness of the players on that team? It said, “don’t mess with me.” Loved his teams.
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 23, 2020 16:12:49 GMT -6
Interesting that the conventional wisdom on these boards for weeks now has been the coming demise of Coleman and Bumbalough as the longer college season and MAC play wears them down.
And yet our leading scorers yesterday were these 2, and undoubtedly we would have lost the game without them.
So much for conventional wisdom, I guess.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 23, 2020 16:20:22 GMT -6
Interesting that the conventional wisdom on these boards for weeks now has been the coming demise of Coleman and Bumbalough as the longer college season and MAC play wears them down. And yet our leading scorers yesterday were these 2, and undoubtedly we would have lost the game without them. So much for conventional wisdom, I guess. Each played fewer minutes than in several recent games. I'd say Whitford is properly watching a problem.
With that, I hope in Cleveland we can play Acree and other bench players a bit more.
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 23, 2020 22:41:11 GMT -6
Each played fewer minutes than in several recent games. I'd say Whitford is properly watching a problem. Coleman's played more minutes during the past 5 games than he's played during any 5-game stretch all season. You need to run for public office; you make up more shit than any politician.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 23, 2020 22:48:40 GMT -6
I'm shocked coleman is acoring as well as he has been. If he can get better at making decisions he has a chance to be really good
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 24, 2020 1:39:25 GMT -6
Each played fewer minutes than in several recent games. I'd say Whitford is properly watching a problem. Coleman's played more minutes during the past 5 games than he's played during any 5-game stretch all season. You need to run for public office; you make up more shit than any politician. Which stat is why some were worried. I had more concern about Luke than Coleman anyway, because of his size. 30 is marginal for any player. Coleman season average closer to 25. This stretch not good. Yesterday Coleman at 30 minutes is not his high even in the 5 games. May be his low for the 5. Bumb playing even more in a couple of games, that's a bigger problem. For both well over season average in the last 5 games. But don't the numbers yesterday seem more manageable? Better if Colenan played a little less. But he has recently played more so I am still worried at 30, especially not sure about 3 games in 3 nights.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 24, 2020 4:08:28 GMT -6
I'm shocked coleman is acoring as well as he has been. If he can get better at making decisions he has a chance to be really good Yep, he’s showing a lot more than I expected. Hopefully the decisions and behavior will improve as he matures.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Feb 24, 2020 6:48:25 GMT -6
You need to run for public office; you make up more shit than any politician. Don't give him any ideas. The country is screwed up enough as it is.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 24, 2020 9:38:44 GMT -6
So, I did go to the game. However I found that my attention was more engaged in talking to my old buddies (who I don't see that often) rather than by the pointless, mediocre mid-major game on the floor.
*My general impression of the game (or maybe I should say "my General impression") was that EMU's offense is truly God awful but they were able to build a lead because BSU went a long stretch towards the end of the first half without even getting a shot to the rim. Seemed like about a dozen possessions in a row ended in either a turnover or a blocked shot. but, again, I wasn't paying too close attention. A team with a legitimate D1 offense would have buried BSU at that point.
*Honestly, I'm not sure that I've ever seen an offense look as clueless and purposeless as Eastern's at this advanced stage of the season. Do they practice at all? At times it seemed that their main purpose was simply to use up the shot clock, and then maybe put up a poor shot as an afterthought, just to keep up appearances. Never thought too much of Murphy, and even less now. What a painful team to watch...that zone makes things frustrating for opponents at one end, and total incompetence at the other end. EMU fans must dream of the Earl nevertobe spokens days the way we dream of our glory days.
*In the 2nd half, once BSU actually got some shot attempts to the rim and tied the game, I knew it was over.
*Coleman looked like the best player on the floor, but if I was choosing in a draft to build a winning team, I would pick Toure first out of the players at hand. The distribution of height among the population means that players like him are extremely rare. A recruiter could easily find four good-to-decent players to combine with him and have an nice balanced team, just like that. Not that Murphy did it, but a real coach could. Players like Coleman, on the other hand, exist in bunches. You could recruit them all day long, but go years and never be able to balance them out with a front court presence.
*If you want to imagine a ray of hope for BSU basketball, it would be that Coleman and Bumb form a quality, experienced mid-major guard combo as upperclassmen and combine with a group of young studs (including an inside presence) brought to campus by the recruiter who replaces Whitford to form a balanced, championship contending team. Of course, we all know that the huge brick, barbed-wire-topped wall of administration incompetence and low expectations stands between us and that rosy scenario.
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Post by CallingBS on Feb 24, 2020 9:53:24 GMT -6
So, I did go to the game. However I found that my attention was more engaged in talking to my old buddies (who I don't see that often) rather than by the pointless, mediocre mid-major game on the floor.
*My general impression of the game (or maybe I should say "my General impression") was that EMU's offense is truly God awful but they were able to build a lead because BSU went a long stretch towards the end of the first half without even getting a shot to the rim. Seemed like about a dozen possessions in a row ended in either a turnover or a blocked shot. but, again, I wasn't paying too close attention. A team with a legitimate D1 offense would have buried BSU at that point.
*Honestly, I'm not sure that I've ever seen an offense look as clueless and purposeless as Eastern's at this advanced stage of the season. Do they practice at all? At times it seemed that their main purpose was simply to use up the shot clock, and then maybe put up a poor shot as an afterthought, just to keep up appearances. Never thought too much of Murphy, and even less now. What a painful team to watch...that zone makes things frustrating for opponents at one end, and total incompetence at the other end. EMU fans must dream of the Earl nevertobe spokens days the way we dream of our glory days.
*In the 2nd half, once BSU actually got some shot attempts to the rim and tied the game, I knew it was over.
*Coleman looked like the best player on the floor, but if I was choosing in a draft to build a winning team, I would pick Toure first out of the players at hand. The distribution of height among the population means that players like him are extremely rare. A recruiter could easily find four good-to-decent players to combine with him and have an nice balanced team, just like that. Not that Murphy did it, but a real coach could. Players like Coleman, on the other hand, exist in bunches. You could recruit them all day long, but go years and never be able to balance them out with a front court presence.
*If you want to imagine a ray of hope for BSU basketball, it would be that Coleman and Bumb form a quality, experienced mid-major guard combo as upperclassmen and combine with a group of young studs (including an inside presence) brought to campus by the recruiter who replaces Whitford to form a balanced, championship contending team. Of course, we all know that the huge brick, barbed-wire-topped wall of administration incompetence and low expectations stands between us and that rosy scenario.
Agreed 100%
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 24, 2020 9:59:08 GMT -6
By the way, I see that the demon-from-Hell, Earl nevertobe spokens is currently an assistant at Arkansas, after couching an HS team for a few years. If I somehow had the opportunity to make a now-or-never snap decision to hire Earl TODAY to take over from Whitford, I would do it, despite knowing nothing whatsoever about Earl's coaching and recruiting record. Anyone who forges a 16 year career in the NBA at 5'5" has to know SOMETHING. Could recruits take him seriously when he is shorter than their mothers? Probably, if he showed them pictures/video of himself in ten different NBA jerseys. Maybe he would be aided by Satan, as he was throughout his college career
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Post by cardfan on Feb 24, 2020 10:19:58 GMT -6
Sherm, agree with everything you said. But, do not invoke ‘that’ name. Not satan, the other one that was worse for us. Stole our hearts and souls many times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 11:01:12 GMT -6
We can’t allow a MAC Victory go by (especially over a team that had dominated it’s last 5 opponents) without declaring “Cleveland Supremacy”.
So I’m predicting the Cards are in the final four MAC teams as ALL FIRES click in for a fleeting period of time!
Book those Hampton Suites now before they’re all gone.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 24, 2020 11:04:01 GMT -6
Thinking about it, we should not consider hiring him. He either sold his soul to or actually is the angel of the bottomless pit.
In either case he would only return to Worthen to torture us in new ways.
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