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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 23, 2020 15:35:24 GMT -6
How many of you think you already have had it.. I was sick mid to late feb and I could check off the list of symptoms plus another 3 or 4 of the maybe symptons(rash and weird foot thing) Second question does it now seem like every weird thing that happens to someone now becomes a possible symptom.
Ill add my whole family had similar symptoms.. Wife and I did not go to the doctor but after having fevers for days both kids went tot he doctor.. We were told the had some no name Viral virus
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 17:24:48 GMT -6
Both of my brothers have had it. One in Cali in late Dec and the other in FL in mid Jan. A non-flu, upper respiratory infection that lasted 3 weeks.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 23, 2020 17:37:04 GMT -6
There are other non flu respiratory infections, so who knows.
RMC had a good question though.
We really don't know more. Testing and research we need.
We don't need a giant experiment opening Georgia to see what happens without more knowledge before we take that chance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 20:57:42 GMT -6
Like I said, you are free to stay in your room and wait until you feel safer.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 23, 2020 21:19:07 GMT -6
Like I said, you are free to stay in your room and wait until you feel safer. Not about feeling safe. And not about you or me. It's about the other people we could pass virus on to before we suffered the consequences. Stay in your room (or social distance) until the odds of that are smaller.
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 23, 2020 21:31:21 GMT -6
No way of knowing for sure, but I believe I had it in early January. USC researchers are now saying it was likely in the US in September.
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Post by lmills72 on Apr 23, 2020 22:40:50 GMT -6
Well, I guess I kinda hope I've had it since that might give me some resistance to what I'm around every day I'm in the hospital. But if I haven't had it, I sure as hell don't want to get it.
I will say we see a fair amount of people, possibly like some of you, who seem to WANT to test positive. They seemingly want to be at least a part of one of the biggest events probably since 9/11. They don't want to be left out.
But, if you have had it and had mild or no symptoms, be very thankful, because you don't want the severe symptoms.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 23, 2020 22:50:16 GMT -6
I do not want any part of it all and if it I have had it thank God it was not severe.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 24, 2020 7:31:21 GMT -6
Around mid-January I felt like crap for a few days, but didn't have a fever or any other symptoms.
Given the nature of my job, I'm in close contact (sitting next to each other for several hours), with people who travel a lot. And I gamble (chips are havens for all kinds of biological cooties), so hours at a table with people of, uh, "questionable" hygiene.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if I've already had it.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 24, 2020 8:23:29 GMT -6
I did not secretly test any of you guys, so I don't know for sure, but it is highly unlikely any of you had it prior to March. All the usual flu and flu-like things are still around and were, as always, very commonly around this winter and early spring, you know.
But, now that I think about it, I DID have a dry cough and felt extremely tired the last time I had to call in sick to work in 2006. So maybe....
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 24, 2020 9:43:06 GMT -6
Around mid-January I felt like crap for a few days, but didn't have a fever or any other symptoms. Given the nature of my job, I'm in close contact (sitting next to each other for several hours), with people who travel a lot. And I gamble (chips are havens for all kinds of biological cooties), so hours at a table with people of, uh, "questionable" hygiene. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I've already had it. Who knows?
I would not bet my life on being immune though.
Stay safe. Sitting next to those travelers does present a risk.
At least you can gamble on line.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 8, 2020 21:33:00 GMT -6
A colleague’s daughter in law is a nurse who came down with covid like symptoms in January. Had been seeing a pulmonologist for it who after the fact believes it was covid.
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Post by bsutrack on May 10, 2020 18:54:52 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on May 10, 2020 19:40:34 GMT -6
That is one of those statistics that is deceptive. Since NY is still largely shut down, and a fraction of the population is working, that isn't bad news for the strategy.
My safety first strategy, BTW, is to use strong social distancing not just shelter in place. And to wait to reopen a relatively short time while we ramp up testing, tracing and isolation of those who are positive. Such measures can get us through until we have a vaccine.
We do not have any of those less restrictive alternatives up to now, and do not have them now.
If you think that ending shelter in place will somehow produce fewer cases, I'd like to have you explain how that is possible without the steps I mentioned above. Right now, there is no strategy that produces fewer cases than shelter in place.
Besides. The NYstrategy with pretty strict shutdown has actually bent the curve down. When NY after a few weeks extra of shutdown does open up they should have more success than doing it now.
The rest of the USA more of which is going back to work early than NY, is doing so while the number of cases is still going up. Compared to Mar 1 not only are there more people out there now who are positive, but since the opening has just started we have not seen the expected rise in cases due to that which every projection shows. While some things are better now than early March, and we did buy some time to get the hospitals in better shape, we may see a pretty large increase in case, and deaths, which certainly would have happened if we had not shutdown. It may not be pretty.
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Post by bsutrack on May 10, 2020 20:22:22 GMT -6
That is one of those statistics that is deceptive. Since NY is still largely shut down, and a fraction of the population is working, that isn't bad news for the strategy.
My safety first strategy, BTW, is to use strong social distancing not just shelter in place. And to wait to reopen a relatively short time while we ramp up testing, tracing and isolation of those who are positive. Such measures can get us through until we have a vaccine.
We do not have any of those less restrictive alternatives up to now, and do not have them now.
If you think that ending shelter in place will somehow produce fewer cases, I'd like to have you explain how that is possible without the steps I mentioned above. Right now, there is no strategy that produces fewer cases than shelter in place.
Besides. The NYstrategy with pretty strict shutdown has actually bent the curve down. When NY after a few weeks extra of shutdown does open up they should have more success than doing it now.
The rest of the USA more of which is going back to work early than NY, is doing so while the number of cases is still going up. Compared to Mar 1 not only are there more people out there now who are positive, but since the opening has just started we have not seen the expected rise in cases due to that which every projection shows. While some things are better now than early March, and we did buy some time to get the hospitals in better shape, we may see a pretty large increase in case, and deaths, which certainly would have happened if we had not shutdown. It may not be pretty.
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An increase in Covid-19 (although I prefer Chinese Communist Party Virus, CCP Virus) cases is related to increased testing. The more tests you administrate, the more cases you will find. Of course you will have more cases as the lock down is ended. It's a necessary part of the process to get to the Swedish model of how the virus needs to be handled. www.zerohedge.com/political/whitney-sweden-modelSweden got through the initial part of the curve without crashing their hospital system and without sending their economy into a depression. The key fact to remember in "flattening the curve" is the area under the curve remains the same. Do you want a slow drip, drip, drip of deaths or get over with it as quickly as possible? The total number of people dying remains the same.
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