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Post by 00hmh on Jan 16, 2021 16:35:30 GMT -6
Halftime, your avoiding answering any arguments made except by name calling makes me feel pretty confident about my position.
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Post by sweep on Jan 16, 2021 17:23:05 GMT -6
Halftime, your avoiding answering any arguments made except by name calling makes me feel pretty confident about my position. You're going to have to remind me precisely what your always shifting contention is, because you alter it with every post. Perhaps instead you could answer my simple question, do you in fact have any concept how stupid you look ? |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 16, 2021 18:42:20 GMT -6
Halftime, your avoiding answering any arguments made except by name calling makes me feel pretty confident about my position. Oh, so we want to talk about avoiding arguments, eh? I notice you still avoid confronting the enormous damage gap caused by left vs right wing riots in 2020. I'm still wanting to know your estimate of the ratio. Clearly, this is one of those things you just pretend doesn't exist, so that you can more happily consume your echo chamber version of reality. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 16, 2021 19:28:07 GMT -6
Sense of perspective: BLM riot damage vs election fraud riot damage. newly built $30 M low-income housing project:  window: ![]()  |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 6:24:17 GMT -6
I do not believe property damage measures the serious nature of the Capitol incursion.
Not do I in any way say summer property damage was "good."
Or said anything like that.
I have the silly idea the President should support orderly transition and not be a sore loser and go AWOL from his duties.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jan 17, 2021 9:40:29 GMT -6
(In my best Forrest Gump voice:)
"And just like that, 00's posts go down to 1 or 2 sentences."
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 10:40:59 GMT -6
(In my best Forrest Gump voice:) "And just like that, 00's posts go down to 1 or 2 sentences." I do sometimes forget the short attention span of the Twitter influenced online universe. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 17, 2021 11:16:12 GMT -6
still not willing to admit the relative magnitude of left wing rioting vs right wing rioting eh? Well...I guess you can't really. It's so enormously disproportionate that it just makes your arguments look completely frivolous.
Let's just imagine for a moment that the right wing rioting caused anything like the millions and millions of damage that the left wing rioting caused. And that it went on for days on end while the right wing politicians responsible for law and order sat on their hands and let it happen. Can we even imagine the level of total hysteria that would be reached by 00 and his like? No. No we can't.
They have no principles. It's all about who is on their side and who is not.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 11:43:55 GMT -6
still not willing to admit the relative magnitude of left wing rioting vs right wing rioting eh? Still not willing to recognize the rather obvious differences? Still think property damage is the measure? That these are actually similar?
On the contrary to your post, I recognize the number of people involved, and the property damage. Not that those are trivial or "good" but that the seriousness of DC insurrection needs be evaluated by different measures.
You have little or nothing to say about the DC Capital insurrection, other than to deflect from it. Little to say about the campaign of exaggeration and lies by the President that led up to the actual event.
The threat to life there was not only that but a threat to the Constitution and to the nation. Much more serious threat than that created to downtown Seattle merchants. In the end, if we are going to talk about economic consequence, I suggest we consider the issues, including threat to life, that this divisive campaign and the event in DC is raising, requiring expensive mobilization of police and national guard across the country and continuing increased security expense into the foreseeable future.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 17, 2021 12:26:44 GMT -6
The threat to life there was not only that but a threat to the Constitution and to the nation.
Apparently, things in 00's echo chamber have progressed to the point where they have convinced themselves that this guy was on the very verge of taking over the United States government. In this way, they can continue to they can pretend that a riot causing thousands of dollars of damage was actually, when you really think about it, much worse that riots that caused many tens of millions of dollars of damage. Thus the truth of my first post in this thread is demonstrated.  |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 17, 2021 12:28:00 GMT -6
The threat to life there was not only that but a threat to the Constitution and to the nation.
Apparently, things in 00's echo chamber have progressed to the point where they have convinced themselves that this guy was on the very verge of taking over the United States government. In this way, they can continue to they can pretend that a riot causing thousands of dollars of damage was actually, when you really think about it, much worse that riots that caused many tens of millions of dollars of damage. Thus the truth of my first post in this thread is demonstrated. When you lack principles, it's all about who did it, rather than what they actually did. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 16:23:37 GMT -6
I saw greater threat to law and the nation than looting an appliance store.
You are seriously defending this threat to the Congress and VP? A matter of minutes from that result.
Defending assault on them, and interference with transfer of power, making the US look like an unstable 3rd world dictatorship?
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Post by sweep on Jan 17, 2021 17:01:08 GMT -6
I saw greater threat to law and the nation than looting an appliance store. You are seriously defending this threat to the Congress and VP? A matter of minutes from that result. Defending assault on them, and interference with transfer of power, making the US look like an unstable 3rd world dictatorship? Odd I don't remember a single post where anyone defended the Capitol rioters. Nice job trying to create a strawman. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 17:38:42 GMT -6
I saw greater threat to law and the nation than looting an appliance store. You are seriously defending this threat to the Congress and VP? Odd I don't remember a single post where anyone defended the Capitol rioters. I recall no post where you called out those involved in any way or showed appreciation of the seriousness of this event. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2021 19:23:19 GMT -6
Pretty fitting way for the Trump era to end. Just like his failed businesses, he burns it to the ground and slinks away while everyone else watches the chaos. Yes and even with serious character flaws he accomplished far more than Obama. Oddly though, if that is true, he leaves office with the lowest approval rating in modern history. Compared to Obama's rather higher approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/History will decide this ultimately. Right now his "accomplishments" are often a matter of partisan opinion. Granted he suffers from arrogance, lack of respect for women and minorities, and other character issues. But. His handling of Covid-19 and generally poor management of actual government duties are not mere "character flaws." More culpable negligence and incompetence. |
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