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Post by chirpchirpcards on Jul 30, 2021 21:16:01 GMT -6
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Jul 30, 2021 21:21:19 GMT -6
The tweet says "schools/community" so it's accounting for revenue the school makes as well as revenue for the city. I'd like to see that broken out. Very big UT impact for Lubbock, not as big for WVU, Ames or Lawrence at home, for example. It's a speculative estimate, but not outrageously high. I think it's saying combined, not that each of those schools/communities are losing a billion dollars. I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that OU/UT generate a billion dollars in revenue for schools/communities combined each year.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 31, 2021 7:10:09 GMT -6
Could this possibly be true Whatever the real number is, this Iowa State person illustrates a key point in this discussion: why does he think it's somehow the duty of Texas and Oklahoma football to continue to spill money on Iowa State and Ames? Why should they avoid doing things in their own self interest to maintain a state of affairs that Iowa State fans prefer? Similarly, I often see BSU football fans lamenting how the big conference "greed" will end the current D1 football arrangement, and the BSU football fans don't like that.
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 31, 2021 17:31:42 GMT -6
If these damages exist and if ESPN or the SEC is liable for inducing breach of contract it's valuable for that reason.
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Post by villagepub on Aug 4, 2021 8:27:46 GMT -6
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Post by villagepub on Aug 4, 2021 8:31:54 GMT -6
Loss of the Big12 will cost the economy 18,000+ jobs? Come on.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 4, 2021 8:52:29 GMT -6
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Post by sweep on Aug 4, 2021 10:17:40 GMT -6
Economic impact studies are notoriously inaccurate in both directions. I don't doubt the involved Universities are in a panic, they are probably way over staffed to begin with. Of course they will blame everyone but themselves.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 4, 2021 11:11:17 GMT -6
Economic impact studies are notoriously inaccurate in both directions. I don't doubt the involved Universities are in a panic, they are probably way over staffed to begin with. Of course they will blame everyone but themselves. How would they have avoided this? How do you see them responsible for this? They are perhaps in a business deal that cannot be rescued when UT and OU bail, but I don't see how at any point they would have prevented this.
Their athletic staffing is funded by the athletic revenue from B12, from donors and from attendance. I am not clear how cutting staff earlier would have helped, or why they would have not had a pretty big athletic staff to manage that big time enterprise.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 4, 2021 11:22:34 GMT -6
Economic impact studies are notoriously inaccurate in both directions. I just read this one. Not a prize of clarity about the inputs or the model they use and it's basis. Then the two scenarios they analyze are really vaguely defined, and neither seems particularly likely to be what actually happens.
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Post by sweep on Aug 4, 2021 11:29:20 GMT -6
Economic impact studies are notoriously inaccurate in both directions. I don't doubt the involved Universities are in a panic, they are probably way over staffed to begin with. Of course they will blame everyone but themselves. How would they have avoided this? How do you see them responsible for this? Okay as a single example, does Baylor really need forty-one Senior, Associate, and Assistant Athletic Directors. baylorbears.com/staff-directoryCount them up yourself, I may very well have missed a few.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 4, 2021 12:23:32 GMT -6
How would they have avoided this? How do you see them responsible for this? Okay as a single example, does Baylor really need forty-one Senior, Associate, and Assistant Athletic Directors. baylorbears.com/staff-directoryCount them up yourself, I may very well have missed a few. No doubt the schools can mitigate the loss of revenues by cutting their costs. And communities while losing jobs and revenue, certainly won't suffer reduction in net profit as they cut back as well.
The report seems to be about GROSS product, I think essentially gross revenue loss.
My other point was in response to your idea they should blame themselves. I don't sees how could they have avoided this change by cutting staff earlier? Or in any other way. The bloated university staffs probably assist the community in generating revenue, so if we do reduce them that could reduce community estimated revenue, or increase their costs.
We agree the report is not as damning as it looks.
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Post by villagepub on Aug 4, 2021 13:10:29 GMT -6
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Post by villagepub on Aug 4, 2021 13:37:43 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 4, 2021 14:43:31 GMT -6
How would they have avoided this? How do you see them responsible for this? Okay as a single example, does Baylor really need forty-one Senior, Associate, and Assistant Athletic Directors. baylorbears.com/staff-directoryCount them up yourself, I may very well have missed a few. It’s absurd to have that many athletic directors. At least 30 of those positions should be converted to diversity and inclusion roles.
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