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Post by bsutrack on Jul 25, 2022 12:25:46 GMT -6
Exactly, at first the sanctions had some impact, but then the Russians found enough customers in China, India, and other places by offering extreme discounts. Money triumphs over morality. The additional crude oil the Indians and others got from Russia at lower prices backed-out crude oil that got delivered to those countries trying to honor the sanctions. Now there are some new sanctions being rolled-out at the first of 2023 against the tanker companies that transport the oil to China and India. The hope is that will put a dent into Russian oil production. Remember most of the Russian oil delivered to Europe was transported by pipelines and much shorter routes. Lots more tankers needed now to get Russian crude to Asia. So where are prices expected to go in the next 3-6 months? Will they continue their downward trend, stabilize, or rise again? 99% of oil price projections are wrong, but I'll give it the old college try. Short term, next 2 to 3 months the downward trend should continue. After that there are at least 3 upcoming events to watch. 1) SPR releases stop at the end of October. That will remove approximately 1 million BOPD of supply from the market. 2) In August the production quota for Saudi Arabia increases to 11 million BOPD, and then 11.5 million BOPD a few months after that. The Saudi's have long claimed they can produce 12 million BOPD and almost all governments world-wide have brought into it as fact. I personally don't think they will ever get to 11.0 million; probably max-out around 10.7 million BOPD. If that happens and the world doesn't have an obvious reserve supply of oil, prices should spike. 3) The civil war in Libya could start-up again, removing another 1 million BOPD from the market. For my money, #2 is the one to watch. If Saudi can produce 11.0+ million BOPD, everything should be fine. Gasoline prices will probably get below $4.00 and stabilize. If they can't, you could see $6.00+ per gallon gasoline by next spring.
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 30, 2022 13:24:44 GMT -6
Not a bad idea to hedge the bet and try to avoid it, but likely this will require we shift toward mitigation. I cannot see a good case to ignore the possibility completely.
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Post by rusty on Jul 30, 2022 14:01:33 GMT -6
Gas has dropped around 76 cents in the last few weeks. Some places it’s less than 3.80.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jul 30, 2022 14:29:00 GMT -6
Gas has dropped around 76 cents in the last few weeks. Some places it’s less than 3.80. We are extremely lucky that the oil companies became less greedy.
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Post by coastalcard on Jul 31, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -6
quick check:
since Jan 4, 2020: WTI Crude oil up 229.5% Gasoline up 121.7% (at my service station in NC)
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 15, 2022 19:30:43 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Aug 15, 2022 21:04:43 GMT -6
We’re rapidly depleting our emergency reserves and the Saudis are watching and playing us like a fiddle……well done FJB.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 5, 2022 20:07:00 GMT -6
He's at it again, pledging to empty another 10 million barrels from the SPR in November, after the 180 million barrels for the 6 months ending in October.www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-release-10m-more-barrels-strategic-petroleum-reserve-november-wake-opec-cutsI will admit, this is pretty much the smartest short term political decision Biden has made. Note I say political decision and not a strategic decision for the nation. No one is going to miss this this reserve until there is an actual emergency. Like telling your spouse you have life insurance when you don't. No one gets hurt until you die and leave a financial mess behind. But releasing the 180 million barrels of oil from the US SPR and getting our allies to release another 60 million from theirs has covered-up the underlying trend of lowering crude stockpiles worldwide. Here is a graph of OECD petroleum inventories ending in the first 3 months of SPR releases. Double click on image to enlarge Note the dashed line on the graph for April through July, 2022 which is the trend without SPR releases. Worldwide inventories have only started rebuilding and gasoline prices lowering because of the SPR releases masking what would have been a continuation of depleting inventories. More recently, the Federal Reserve's war on inflation and their raising of interest rates have sparked concerns for a world-wide recession. The theory being a recession will lower oil demand and lower oil demand will mean lower oil prices. The problem is recessions don't always mean lower oil demand. For example, in 2 of the last 4 recessions (the recessions of the early 1990's and 2001) the result was still an increase in oil demand. It just grew at a slower rate than without a recession. The only actual decreases in oil demand occurred in the Great Recession of 2008-09 and the Covid-19 Lockdown Recession of 2020. So the world is depending on the US Federal Reserve to create a recession in order to lower oil prices. If that wasn't bad enough, now you have OPEC+ cutting 2 million BOPD to counter the fall in oil prices caused by the forecasted recession related to demand destruction. That in turn has Biden releasing another 10 million barrels of oil from the US SPR. This a like a game of chess with our chess master being Joe Biden. How long before we get checkmated?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 6, 2022 6:37:29 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 13, 2022 14:48:47 GMT -6
We’re rapidly depleting our emergency reserves and the Saudis are watching and playing us like a fiddle.
"There are no perfect answers. What will be required in the years ahead is a diverse and flexible mix of energy solutions – what Bill Gates calls a 'Swiss army knife of energy tools.' "
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Post by coastalcard on Oct 19, 2022 15:02:18 GMT -6
The attempt to sway a foreign nation(s) to delay their energy decision to benefit the sitting president’s political friends was unsuccessful so another dump of strategic oil has hit the market to hold gas prices in check.
Didn’t Trump get impeached for allegedly doing something similar? 🤔
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 20, 2022 20:06:02 GMT -6
The attempt to sway a foreign nation(s) to delay their energy decision to benefit the sitting president’s political friends was unsuccessful so another dump of strategic oil has hit the market to hold gas prices in check. Didn’t Trump get impeached for allegedly doing something similar? 🤔 No.
He was impeached for trying to use foreign influence in an election, and a second time for inciting interference with the process of Congress in transition to a new President.
The misguided attempt to influence Saudi oil production was more like Trumps unsuccessful wooing of Kim in Korea to behave himself.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2022 0:56:25 GMT -6
The attempt to sway a foreign nation(s) to delay their energy decision to benefit the sitting president’s political friends was unsuccessful so another dump of strategic oil has hit the market to hold gas prices in check. Didn’t Trump get impeached for allegedly doing something similar? 🤔 No.
He was impeached for trying to use foreign influence in an election, and a second time for inciting interference with the process of Congress in transition to a new President.
The misguided attempt to influence Saudi oil production was more like Trumps unsuccessful wooing of Kim in Korea to behave himself.
How is this different than asking the Saudis to hold-off on oil production cuts until after the November, 2022 mid-term elections?
In the case of Trump, he asked the Ukrainian Government to investigate the business activities of Hunter Biden. In particular, why Hunter was being paid millions for sitting on the board of directors of the energy company Burisma. Something Hunter had absolutely no background in energy for. This was a well founded request as supported by this US Senate Committee on Finance Majority Staff Report: www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Finance%20Joint%20Report%202020.09.23.pdfThe goal being to find enough dirt on the Biden Family Crime Syndicate to influence the November, 2020 elections. In the case of Biden, he asked the Saudis to keep oil production levels high in the hope those high production levels plus the 180 million barrels being released from the US SPR would be enough to influence the November, 2022 elections. These extra supplies of oil injected into the market are designed to keep gasoline prices temporarily low until after the election. What was Biden's leverage on getting the Saudis to do this? Apparently the various reprisals the White House is now talking about; cutting off military arms sales to Saudi Arabia, pulling all American troops out of Saudi Arabia, or this ridiculous NOPEC bill which has been talked about in Congress for the past 20 or more years. Oh by the way, here is an interesting graph of what is happening to our total inventories of crude oil and petroleum products by including the SPR. Double Click on Image to Enlarge SPR releases are temporally keeping commercial crude inventories flat to slightly increased; masking the overall trend of what is happening. Once SPR releases are stopped, all the decreases will shift to commercial inventories which should setoff alarm bells.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2022 1:36:30 GMT -6
Things are turning ugly in terms of diesel inventories. oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Diesel-Crisis-Deepens-As-Inventories-Fall-To-Dangerous-Levels.htmlUS distillate stocks (which includes diesel, jet fuel, and home heating oil) have fallen to 106 million barrels, which is the lowest since records of these stocks began back in 1982. Europe is doing a little better, with distillate stocks at 360 million barrels at the end of September, the lowest seasonal since 2007. In an example of how the US exports our inflation to the rest of the world, "Reuters reported earlier this month that at least three tankers carrying diesel from the Middle East had changed their course mid-journey and were now traveling to the United States. And this new competition is about to intensify". www.reuters.com/business/energy/traders-divert-europe-bound-diesel-us-race-re-stock-2022-10-14/Right now, Europe can still purchase diesel fuel from Russia, but this is about to end in February of next year as new embargos against Russia go into place. Europe will need to outbid the US then for their fuel. "The foundation of the shortage is the gap between refining capacity and fuel demand. The pandemic saw a lot of refineries close, especially in the United States. It wasn’t just the pandemic itself— the anticipation of a boom in demand for EVs that would render a lot of refining capacity obsolete also had a part to play, as Reuters’ John Kemp noted in a column last week." www.reuters.com/markets/asia/diesels-gloomy-message-global-economy-kemp-2022-10-14/Some more "gems" from the Reuters' article: Once more of China is freed from Covid Lockdowns, their refinery capacity might be able to meet world demand; however, "accelerating refinery processing will simply push the shortage upstream from the fuel market to the crude market". "In the absence of major new additions of crude production and refinery capacity, the only path to market rebalancing is through a sharp deceleration in fuel consumption to stabilize then rebuild distillate inventories. Distillates are overwhelmingly used in manufacturing, freight transport, farming, mining, forestry, and oil and gas extraction, so consumption is driven primarily by the economic cycle rather than prices. The need for a major reduction in consumption from trend implies a relatively severe downturn in the business cycle across North America, Europe and Asia. The U.S. Federal Reserve cannot drill oil wells or build new refineries, but it can reduce fuel consumption by raising interest rates and inducing a broader slowdown in the domestic economy and major trading partners. U.S. interest rate traders anticipate the Fed will raise its target for the interbank federal funds rate to 4.75-5.00% before the end of March 2023, up from 3.00-3.25% at present." I'll add that if a Federal Reserve induced recession isn't enough to decrease demand (and I don't think it will), then an increase in oil price is needed. From what I've read, that requires oil going to somewhere between $130 and $180 per barrel. Key takeaways:
1) Money printing by the Federal Reserve to fund Biden's Green New Deal and social-welfare/vote buying schemes has sparked inflation that now must be killed with high interest rates similar to the 1970's when Paul Volcker was Chairman of the Federal Reserve.
2) The Green Utopian dream of EV's has led to the closing of some oil refineries that needed upgrades and others to not expand their capacity as needed to satisfy demand. The costs for such need 20 to 30 years of guaranteed demand which isn't suppose to be there due to EV adoption.
3) Oil companies aren't investing in new exploration and development because they are being told their production will not be needed in the Green Utopia of 2030 onwards.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 26, 2022 21:55:14 GMT -6
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