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Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2022 19:00:29 GMT -6
Really, that needed school permission AND sitting out. Have you thought this through? If it isn't easier why are we seeing more transfer activity? By far? The rule changes have been implemented over the last decade and have nothing to do with the term "portal". There were 829 portal transfers in 2015 compared with 1013 in 2020, there are currently 529 athletes in this years portal. Last season there were 1729 transfers, but the number is greatly skewed because everyone was awarded an extra year and it was the first year no one had to sit out. The numbers will settle back down this year, even though we are still working the extra year through the system. There is not some massive explosion in transfers. So the not sitting out part did not come "over the last decade" but started LAST year.
The "portal" part means schools cannot discourage transfer which is significant and the transparent process makes it easier for players. Whether you call it an explosion or not you are nuts to say it is not easier now and more difficult to hold on to players when there is a coaching change. |
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Post by sweep on Mar 21, 2022 19:12:28 GMT -6
The rule changes have been implemented over the last decade and have nothing to do with the term "portal". There were 829 portal transfers in 2015 compared with 1013 in 2020, there are currently 529 athletes in this years portal. Last season there were 1729 transfers, but the number is greatly skewed because everyone was awarded an extra year and it was the first year no one had to sit out. The numbers will settle back down this year, even though we are still working the extra year through the system. There is not some massive explosion in transfers. you are nuts to say it is not easier now
That's probably why I never said that. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 21, 2022 19:40:37 GMT -6
you are nuts to say it is not easier now
That's probably why I never said that. When I said that same thing and you replied I just didn't see how you were actually agreeing with me. My apology. |
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Post by Hoopsmith on Mar 22, 2022 6:10:28 GMT -6
So driving home from work this afternoon, I'm listening to Indy sports talk radio. A caller who IDs himself as being from Muncie says there is a lot of community support for Bonzi to be the next coach. On one had it would be nice if the community cared at all about the BSU program. But does anyone have any idea if Bonzi would actually have any traction for the job, or interest in it? He IS one of those lower division coaches that has been talked about, but hardly successful at the level of others mentioned. I think he was 16-12 this year at LeMoyn-Owens For the love of god, no |
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 22, 2022 8:45:11 GMT -6
So driving home from work this afternoon, I'm listening to Indy sports talk radio. A caller who IDs himself as being from Muncie says there is a lot of community support for Bonzi to be the next coach. On one had it would be nice if the community cared at all about the BSU program. But does anyone have any idea if Bonzi would actually have any traction for the job, or interest in it? He IS one of those lower division coaches that has been talked about, but hardly successful at the level of others mentioned. I think he was 16-12 this year at LeMoyn-Owens For the love of god, no For the record, I agree with you, but let me also play devil's advocate on one front: it is becoming more and more prevalent for recruits to prefer playing for a coach with professional experience. I have no idea if Bonzi can coach, but his pro resume and the stories he could tell them would be very attractive to recruits and their parents. |
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Post by reevo on Mar 22, 2022 8:52:58 GMT -6
For the record, I agree with you, but let me also play devil's advocate on one front: it is becoming more and more prevalent for recruits to prefer playing for a coach with professional experience. I have no idea if Bonzi can coach, but his pro resume and the stories he could tell them would be very attractive to recruits and their parents. So very true! I am thinking he would make a good recruiting assistant for the new coach. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Mar 22, 2022 8:54:01 GMT -6
Woof.
If that's where we are... I don't think the U could take him as HC.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 22, 2022 9:09:54 GMT -6
Woof. If that's where we are... I don't think the U could take him as HC. Did he ever get his degree? Anyway, from Hoopdirt.com today: "UCLA assistant Michael Lewis’ name is making the rounds at Ball State. The Indiana native who played at IU for Bob Knight got an endorsement from his current boss Mick Cronin last week. Also hearing that current BSU associate head coach Linc Darner is in the mix. He’s the former HC at Green Bay who won a D2 National Championship at Florida Southern while going 219–72 (.753) in his 9-years there. Also, at least two Big Ten assistants have tried to get involved." Take that for what it's worth. |
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Post by reds37 on Mar 22, 2022 9:57:36 GMT -6
I will be shocked if Terry Johnson isn’t at least interviewed!! Of course anyone in the tournament can’t talk till their team is out!! i dont know how this can be true....... New Mexico State's coach was "finalizing" a deal to become the next head coach at Miss. St. at 9:30AM the day after his team lost at about 11:30PM. Must have been a long night of negotiation since they were already finalizing by 9:30AM |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 22, 2022 10:02:46 GMT -6
I will be shocked if Terry Johnson isn’t at least interviewed!! Of course anyone in the tournament can’t talk till their team is out!! i dont know how this can be true....... New Mexico State's coach was "finalizing" a deal to become the next head coach at Miss. St. at 9:30AM the day after his team lost at about 11:30PM. Must have been a long night of negotiation since they were already finalizing by 9:30AM I'm guessing the search firm communicates with the agent and the agent runs things through the coach. If there's enough interest the coach would then have a personal interaction with the search firm who then forwards that back to the AD, etc. etc. At least, I assume that's what you're getting with a search firm. I'd say coaches are not barred from speaking to other schools during the tourney, some just consider it bad form. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Mar 22, 2022 10:49:26 GMT -6
It's a matter of semantics. The coach doesn't talk to the school, but he talks to his agent, who talks to the school.
It's like the telephone game.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 22, 2022 11:12:17 GMT -6
It's a matter of semantics. The coach doesn't talk to the school, but he talks to his agent, who talks to the school. It's like the telephone game. Exactly. |
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 22, 2022 11:55:22 GMT -6
For the record, I agree with you, but let me also play devil's advocate on one front: it is becoming more and more prevalent for recruits to prefer playing for a coach with professional experience. I have no idea if Bonzi can coach, but his pro resume and the stories he could tell them would be very attractive to recruits and their parents. I think character background is an issue. Just MHO. |
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Post by universityjim on Mar 22, 2022 12:31:10 GMT -6
For the record, I agree with you, but let me also play devil's advocate on one front: it is becoming more and more prevalent for recruits to prefer playing for a coach with professional experience. I have no idea if Bonzi can coach, but his pro resume and the stories he could tell them would be very attractive to recruits and their parents. I think character background is an issue. Just MHO. It would have been in the past. I don't know about now. People grow up sometimes. |
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Post by cbcjanney on Mar 22, 2022 12:44:27 GMT -6
You have to wonder, when coaches (Golden, Jans, McMahon, others) are finalizing new jobs within 48 hours of losing in the tourney - how focused are these guys during the prep and in-game coaching with their former teams if they already know beforehand they're going elsewhere as soon as they're eliminated? Probably even some anxiousness to get started re-building/recruiting the new team that they're getting paid the big bucks for. With most other jobs relocating across the country, there are family discussions like moving away from extended family, new relationships for spouse/kids, having the wife check out neighborhoods to live in new city, research prospective schools for the kids, will husband relocate now and leave wife behind or does family move in March before school finishes, etc. Normally an employee wants to spend some time interacting with his boss and those higher up, and would like to see the practice facilities & stadium in person, research the current roster, scrutinize any future game schedule commitments, perhaps meet some of the key returning players to get a feel for their transfer likeliness. None of this can be accomplished in 12 hours as the new school press release tends to imply, and much of it cannot be accomplished through an agent. I tend to think the coaches and the new school AD's are both flat-out lying when they say contact is not made before a team is eliminated. Of course I wouldn't expect the morals of the SEC schools (above hirings) to be anything above-board.
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