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Post by 00hmh on Oct 21, 2023 21:28:09 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 21, 2023 22:18:12 GMT -6
Average 103k for a p5 starter..: sickening for anyone else
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 6:47:10 GMT -6
P5 another universe. Full pro FB. Not really CFB anymore. First big TV money. Now NIL.
The rest of FBS paying heavy price to stay, in name only, in that classification.
Lower levels are I guess still CFB. At least D3...
Something has to change.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 22, 2023 6:56:09 GMT -6
How can you change it now
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 7:40:15 GMT -6
How can you change it now Most likely P5 goes it's own way. Big problem there's a lot of wannabe G5. Then there are the BSU cases. Just no way in hell. MAC has to give it up, FCS has to be reorganized. And if the economics don't work even there, who knows? Maybe some luxury tax subsidy wrangled by the NFL and P5? More likely we bleed money for decades. Then FCS destructs and... Some weird D3 hybrid with bigger schools. I don't want to see CFB disappear at our level. I guess the Scheu could be a hell of soccer stadium? |
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Post by coastalcard on Oct 22, 2023 9:46:26 GMT -6
Why not NFL minor leagues for the football-starved big city wannabees?
When a $1M+ NIL player gets injured can the NIL collectives insure him? 😂
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 10:46:40 GMT -6
Why not NFL minor leagues for the football-starved big city wannabees? When a $1M+ NIL player gets injured can the NIL collectives insure him? 😂 The NFL already has a minor league for development, which is current CFB. It's basically free...But your point is a good one that maybe they should pay for that.
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Post by steve on Oct 22, 2023 10:52:35 GMT -6
Why not NFL minor leagues for the football-starved big city wannabees? When a $1M+ NIL player gets injured can the NIL collectives insure him? 😂 I’ve said and thought this all along…Ball State should partner with Notre Dame |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 10:54:51 GMT -6
How can you change it now There is no easy way that is for sure. And lots of the solutions proposed have gotchas.
From the unlikely source above there is discussion of a Ted Cruz proposal for Federal legislation with discussion of one of these gotchas. (hard to imagine Congress doing anything right now, so it is all empty talk I suppose)
"Men’s basketball players at Dartmouth are trying to get the NLRB to rule that they are employees with the right to form a union. The board, in the coming months, will hash out that case.
But the mechanics of an NLRB ruling would not be to instantly turn all college athletes into employees and budding union organizers, as Jennifer Abruzzo, the board’s very pro-player general counsel, has explained to me. The NLRB doesn’t hold jurisdiction over public universities, who play most of the big-time football."
Why this is important is that suddenly having labor law apply has the consequence that college sports employers would be anti trust exempt if there were union contracts. Which might give the NCAA(a partnership of universities) ability to create regulation in the collective bargaining agreements.
It's a huge legal mess.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 10:56:28 GMT -6
Why not NFL minor leagues for the football-starved big city wannabees? When a $1M+ NIL player gets injured can the NIL collectives insure him? 😂 I’ve said and thought this all along…Ball State should partner with Notre Dame The question is what is in it for ND? |
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Post by steve on Oct 22, 2023 11:27:16 GMT -6
Nothing…lol
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2023 12:48:06 GMT -6
How can you change it now Probably not legal, but is there anyway you could tax a percentage of NIL (40 to 60%), put it into a fund that is then distributed to all players equally who are below a certain NIL threshold? Again, probably not legal, but all NCAA football and basketball players could benefit and somewhat equal the playing field. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 13:06:12 GMT -6
How can you change it now Probably not legal, but is there anyway you could tax a percentage of NIL (40 to 60%), put it into a fund that is then distributed to all players equally who are below a certain NIL threshold? Again, probably not legal, but all NCAA football and basketball players could benefit and somewhat equal the playing field. Probably illegal, maybe a good idea. But where players are really getting peanuts at G5 level, there isn't enough NIL to really go around.
The rich get richer in CFB. Starts out with those old P5 schools with deep alumni pockets to support programs, big gate, then add booster money to go directly to players. Fan enthusiasm means big TV revenue and gate, and so on. The richer part is really kicking in now with NIL collectives.
To keep the present FBS fiction of G5 going you'd need to "tax" the P5 to share revenue some way, and that ain't gonna happen.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 22, 2023 13:14:10 GMT -6
and its going to become cuthroat for those starting 100k p5 spots. Plus portal plus collectives its a shitshow and at some point a lot of kids are going to screwed
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2023 14:08:57 GMT -6
and its going to become cuthroat for those starting 100k p5 spots. Plus portal plus collectives its a shitshow and at some point a lot of kids are going to screwed It really could wreck a locker room when that much money is involved. The richer teams can afford to make everybody happy.
But, even then million dollar QBs vs the rest. Essentially guys with great pro chances getting the big bucks, the UDFA kids, or journeyman starters, a big difference.
BSU, not many getting healthy paychecks, even if amounts are smaller the friction could be as bad or worse.
The whole idea was players should be sharing revenue with the university that might be benefiting from revenue. And to be to be fair to kids who spend so many hours on their sport but can't afford to get home or make ordinary purchases with minimum scholarship money. Now it might a few thousand to the best and the same damned thing for the rest.
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