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Post by 00hmh on Feb 27, 2024 15:31:10 GMT -6
Now we all know the MAC will eventually lose but the front office is the Alamo The Alamo defenders in a hopeless fight had Davy Crockett and Colonel Travis. We have MAC administrators. |
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 27, 2024 15:36:39 GMT -6
Why don't we get Indiana State to switch....maybe not, they would for certain beat us in basketball and football possibly as well. Wonder how that new Coach created a top 25 team without the big NIL money!!!  |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Feb 27, 2024 15:37:19 GMT -6
Now we all know the MAC will eventually lose but the front office is the Alamo We have MAC administrators. They're hanging out in the basement with Pee Wee's bike. |
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 27, 2024 17:09:06 GMT -6
Interesting, no MAC announcement yet?
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 27, 2024 17:26:26 GMT -6
Why don't we get Indiana State to switch....maybe not, they would for certain beat us in basketball and football possibly as well. Wonder how that new Coach created a top 25 team without the big NIL money!!!??? Good run they had. Down to 46 now, though. |
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Post by mattg on Feb 27, 2024 17:32:49 GMT -6
It does appear that ESPN will shell out more money for larger conference inventories, aka more teams. Perhaps that is what our MAC leadership is thinking? Obviously the question of quality vs quantity will be weighed as well. Our conference “quality” is not necessarily the caliber of athletes and teams, it’s the willingness to play football games on Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. They already have plenty of inventory on ESPN+. They will put literally ANYTHING on there. Any additional money that ESPN pays will be split by more teams, so that's a wash. More travel expenses will eat up any additional revenue anyway. I don't see UMASS as a good addition. Their basketball is historically decent, but not for quite a while now. Football is a train wreck. Other sports, not enough people care for it to matter, except for hockey, which isn't a MAC sport anyway. Bigger market? Maybe, if they think they can make inroads into Boston, but it's 70 miles away. Kind of like thinking BSU would draw the Indy market. Unless we're going to pick up WKU, Ill State, and ND State as well... I'm not seeing the value. Speaking of ESPN +, I think General should invite us over to his house for a Ball State /random cricket game simulcast. Party might get so crazy the cops would get called on us. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 27, 2024 17:49:53 GMT -6
It does appear that ESPN will shell out more money for larger conference inventories, aka more teams. Perhaps that is what our MAC leadership is thinking? Obviously the question of quality vs quantity will be weighed as well. Our conference “quality” is not necessarily the caliber of athletes and teams, it’s the willingness to play football games on Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. So far the MAC's contracts with ESPN have been for relative pennies. Adding more schools might up the ante, but it would still have to be spread amongst more schools. I doubt the contract the MAC could get would result in significantly more dollars, unless somehow the commish convinces ESPN that extremely mediocre teams playing in empty stadiums in bad weather on week nights will be super lucrative... If the addition does result in a larger tv contract, I wouldn't think it would be much, and quite possibly nothing. Does putting UMass in the MAC suddenly create an a tv market in Worcester for Eastern vs. Akron on a weeknight? I would further speculate that the travel costs of sending field hockey, tennis, swimming and other teams out to UMass would easily outweigh any small tv revenue gain. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 27, 2024 17:51:50 GMT -6
We have MAC administrators. They're hanging out in the basement with Pee Wee's bike. Damn, you beat me to that gag. I was going to say that, to continue with the Alamo analogy, the MAC front office is like Pee Wee Herman more than Davey Crockett. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 27, 2024 19:28:40 GMT -6
Interesting, no MAC announcement yet? Fornmal announcement schduled for next week |
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Post by villagepub on Feb 27, 2024 19:53:13 GMT -6
Interesting, no MAC announcement yet? Fornmal announcement schduled for next week Is formal porn, "fornporn?" |
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 27, 2024 20:25:49 GMT -6
Rather than MAC expansion, a better idea would be to disband the conference and let schools go wherever they can get the best fit.
The trouble is disbanding the conference would put the MAC administration out of a job so they'll never do that on their own. And who the hell would want most of these schools anyway?
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Post by connecticutcard on Feb 28, 2024 8:06:48 GMT -6
So far the MAC's contracts with ESPN have been for relative pennies. Adding more schools might up the ante, but it would still have to be spread amongst more schools. I doubt the contract the MAC could get would result in significantly more dollars, unless somehow the commish convinces ESPN that extremely mediocre teams playing in empty stadiums in bad weather on week nights will be super lucrative... Yeah, "we get more money from this" would be the most persuasive argument yet for this. But if it's actually that the conference gets a little more money that gets spread among more parties resulting in no actual additional money coming to us, then it's a nonstarter. Granted I have no idea how the TV contracts work, but I don't see why ESPN is going to roll out the red carpet to get the rights to put EMU vs. UMass on the internet.
I think you could see a little more valuable with the addition of WKU or SIU as full-time members and UCONN and NDSU as football-only with a basketball (men/women) scheduling agreement; sorta like Notre Dame and the ACC. Here you add UMASS to put leverage on UCONN as the lone remaining independent. You add WKU or SIU to counter-balance the addition of UMASS. If you can get 2home/2away scheduling agreement with UCONN every year, then that's 8 (men & women) games that ESPN (or whomever) gets with a blue-blood program that they can cover. Maybe you've thrown UMASS a bone and say one of those four games will be UMASS/UCONN. Adding this scheduling agreement, MAC basketball teams get to host a blue-blood under favorable financial conditions (not a 4 for 1 or something crazy like that). You don't necessarily need to add NDSU until this scenario but you add a football powerhouse here that helps you get into the Playoff. Also, when you have 16-teams, not all of them have to play on Tuesday/Wednesday night. I haven't done the math but you probably could get away with 2 midweek games for each school. So, on average, you are only giving up 1 Saturday home game.
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Post by journalismjoe76 on Feb 28, 2024 8:51:13 GMT -6
I am still puzzled by the attraction of NDSU to this conversation. For that matter, the addition of UMass has me scratching my head. I certainly hope that the MAC gods are planning a second addition - e.g. WKU. Beyond that, a 16-member conference would be nice and tidy, but I can't identify two likely candidates to add to the mix. MTSU doesn't appear to be interested, Marshall has burned their bridges, nobody from the MVC would want to leave and I'm not aware of an FCS candidate that's clamoring to join the party.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 28, 2024 9:09:54 GMT -6
The MAC might be attractive to a low budget FBS school wanting to get easier wins and having a death wish to stay in FBS no matter what.
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Post by villagepub on Feb 28, 2024 9:37:18 GMT -6
I am still puzzled by the attraction of NDSU to this conversation. For that matter, the addition of UMass has me scratching my head. I certainly hope that the MAC gods are planning a second addition - e.g. WKU. Beyond that, a 16-member conference would be nice and tidy, but I can't identify two likely candidates to add to the mix. MTSU doesn't appear to be interested, Marshall has burned their bridges, nobody from the MVC would want to leave and I'm not aware of an FCS candidate that's clamoring to join the party. Why would NDSU join for football only? Why is that an advantage to anyone? |
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