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Post by 00hmh on Apr 22, 2024 9:00:42 GMT -6
The ranting here puzzles me.
cardfan has not exactly been shy about complaining about poor performance by BSU programs.
BSU women won Jacoby Trophy last year, men were near top.
Baseball is not our problem in any case. Nor do I see all that much decline in alumni interest there.
Toledo, Kent, other better funded athletic programs do better in the high expense sports. We gripe plenty about our revenue sports.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 22, 2024 10:47:26 GMT -6
Rich raises 90% of the money for Baseball on his own.. This year he added a huge jumbotron he also always has a team near the top of the MAC
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Post by chupacabra on Apr 25, 2024 6:00:19 GMT -6
I totally agree with the both of you. If you are recruiting a pitcher, it might even be an asset, as you can show the recruit where the talent level seems to drop off, thus creating an early opportunity for him to get on the field. Kids ain't dumb, they can see what you are dealing with. What??? Right…come to Ball St and play for the Maloney’s, where you have a 5% chance of making the NCAA tournament. Oh and to get to that 5% chance, you have to hit a walk off grand slam with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th.
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Post by villagepub on Apr 25, 2024 6:09:22 GMT -6
I totally agree with the both of you. If you are recruiting a pitcher, it might even be an asset, as you can show the recruit where the talent level seems to drop off, thus creating an early opportunity for him to get on the field. Kids ain't dumb, they can see what you are dealing with. What??? Right…come to Ball St and play for the Maloney’s, where you have a 5% chance of making the NCAA tournament. Oh and to get to that 5% chance, you have to hit a walk off grand slam with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. Must be an Alex Marconi fan.
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Post by chupacabra on Apr 25, 2024 6:12:40 GMT -6
Rich raises 90% of the money for Baseball on his own.. This year he added a huge jumbotron he also always has a team near the top of the MAC Kudos to him for making the extra effort off the field. I don’t want him fired, let’s call it transitioned. He can continue to be an asset for us with this type of effort in an administrative role. As I have stated in the past props to him for making us a program that competes in the MAC. But I firmly believe we have the potential as a university for the next level. Actually winning NCAA tournament games. I don’t see this under his coaching style. As for the MAC competing, let’s not forget Kent St made it to the college World Series a little over a decade ago and won 2 games in it. Please Maloneys, prove me wrong and I’ll be the first to apologize and eat my words. 19 years is enough of a sample size. Cue the excuses…
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 26, 2024 12:36:54 GMT -6
Rich raises 90% of the money for Baseball on his own.. This year he added a huge jumbotron he also always has a team near the top of the MAC Kudos to him for making the extra effort off the field. I don’t want him fired, let’s call it transitioned. He can continue to be an asset for us with this type of effort in an administrative role. As I have stated in the past props to him for making us a program that competes in the MAC. But I firmly believe we have the potential as a university for the next level. Actually winning NCAA tournament games. I don’t see this under his coaching style. As for the MAC competing, let’s not forget Kent St made it to the college World Series a little over a decade ago and won 2 games in it. Please Maloneys, prove me wrong and I’ll be the first to apologize and eat my words. 19 years is enough of a sample size. Cue the excuses… No excuses but give me 3 names you feel would be better than Maloney that would work for his salary here
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 26, 2024 12:46:19 GMT -6
Actually name one?!
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Post by chupacabra on Apr 26, 2024 15:06:15 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Apr 26, 2024 16:37:21 GMT -6
Where does it list their salaries? Oh, it doesn’t.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 27, 2024 8:24:17 GMT -6
So how many of the remaining after the untouchables would be worth gambling on that they might be better than Maloney. Is the risk worth the reward?
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Post by cardfan on Apr 27, 2024 8:44:05 GMT -6
Salary MINUS all the money out of Rich’s pocket to support his own program, poor strength and conditioning resources provided by the university, all the fund raising he has to do himself, shoestring budget, etc etc. The salary bsu pays him shows him they value his worth. We got him back when other mac schools were pursuing him. He’s high character, he runs a high character program, and he’s damn good. VERY few people are unhappy with what he’s done for bsu baseball. (Mostly just some butt hurt parents, most likely).
I don’t even know why I keep responding to this dumb bullshit.
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Post by redbirdman on Apr 27, 2024 10:48:25 GMT -6
Maloney finally gets us to the NCAA tourney & the next season you want to fire him. We lost a number of players from that team both to graduation & pro ball/transfers. Our overall record still ranks as at least the top 2 in the MAC & I think there is a good chance we finish 2nd in the league this yr.Maloney is there until he retires. BG has done a great job this yr & if they get in the tourney & win a game I would think there is a good chance their coach is gone.
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 27, 2024 15:40:54 GMT -6
Salary MINUS all the money out of Rich’s pocket to support his own program, poor strength and conditioning resources provided by the university, all the fund raising he has to do himself, shoestring budget, etc etc. The salary bsu pays him shows him they value his worth. We got him back when other mac schools were pursuing him. He’s high character, he runs a high character program, and he’s damn good. VERY few people are unhappy with what he’s done for bsu baseball. (Mostly just some butt hurt parents, most likely). I don’t even know why I keep responding to this dumb bullshit. Dumb bullshit is a great way of putting it. This loser clearly has an axe to grind - perhaps his local yocal little bobby wasn't good enough to play at BSU. Maloney is one of the most respected coaches in all of college baseball, and an incredibly fine human being on top of that. Just ask Kendall Rogers what he thinks of Rich. As for Alex, I just looked up his record. He's been at multiple D1 stops and BSU was a reasonable next step, and good luck trying to hire a better assistant at his paltry salary. Ball State isn't committed to athletics at all, so we are extremely lucky to have someone like Maloney as our head coach.
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Post by chupacabra on May 31, 2024 13:13:24 GMT -6
Readers are leaders CallingBS. Maybe one day you will learn this skill. I've made it clear I have no personal axe to grind. Maloney ('s), now two since he felt it justifiable to hire his little boy, do not have what it takes to get Ball ST baseball to the next level.
- Now 1 for 19 years getting us to the NCAA tourney, with the one pulled out of their arse. - outscored by eventual champ Western Michigan 3-18. 2 games not even close. - 3-8-1 vs. NCAA teams, including a tie vs Indiana at home when they were up 6 with 6 outs left. Why a tie? Because he thought it was more important to have a jumbotron than lights for the field. My little league field had lights in the 70's. It would have been 3-10-1 if we would have actually played Indiana St and @indiana again as they were cancelled. Real competition = Gag. - Series against #23 at the time NC State? You know, real competition. 3 games 8-30, again not close. This isn't football. - Against back yard recruiting competition Purdue who didn't even make tourney? 3-13 again not close
Respect across the country?? Calling your bullshit CallingBS. Two seasons ago we absolutely had a team to be in the NCAA tourney. Of course Ball U choked in the MAC tourney. Did that respect get us in the NCAA tourney? Hell no.
Finished this season #117 (d1baseball.com)...with his tenure??? All that respect you stated has 11 teams with below .500 win/loss records rated better and ahead of BAll ST. You call that respect?
Ran out of arms in the MAC tourney? Whose responsibility is it to recruit and develop pitchers? Cue the excuses.
Is the risk worth the reward? Are we attempting to go 1 for 25 years of his Ball ST tenure to get to the NCAA. What the hell risk are you referring to? Oh that's right. In Ball St administration's mind we put below average and mediocre on a pedestal. Just below average is celebrated.
Some of you guys are too close to it. You can't see the forest for the trees. I am not saying he is a bad guy, deserving to be fired. He deserves to be transitioned. As our HC he doesn't have what it takes to get us to the next level!
Get out of Indiana every once in a while and truly look at what's going on. Sorry to confuse you with actual facts and an eagle eye view.
Now attack me, and of course, cue the excuses...
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Post by 00hmh on May 31, 2024 15:48:32 GMT -6
So what mid major would you say is a model?
Where do we stand among Midwest mid majors?
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