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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 7, 2024 7:21:54 GMT -6
Don't forget we've shot ourselves in the foot with play calling too. Way too many times. That’s something I’d like to forget. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 7, 2024 8:33:03 GMT -6
didn't we have 2 QBs get signed as free agents recently under Neu - Wenning and Plitt? Fail in terms of win/loss/inconsistent productivity. Point being, Plitt and Paddock both get/got NFL camp shots yet we had one winning record in all of their time and came up short far too often when we needed a game winning drive in the 4th qtr. Our one winning season was the covid year and while great, was an anomaly based on all the other Neu years. Kelly will probably go on to have a very nice college career and we couldn't do much with him because we chose not to. Will it be any different with Semonza? Having a former stud qb and "Drew Bree's QB coach" as head coach, you'd think we'd have gotten more out of the QB position over time. Part of the problem is totally on Lynch, I know. Never met a running play or short throw in the flat he didn't like. Part of it is the failure to recruit around the QB's we did have-- some years the WR positions were weak, some years the oline couldn't pass protect well enough. The totality is a lot of bad offensive football. You kinda bring up an interesting point with kelly.. There have been several grumblings that the decision to go with Semonza was not universal with the staff some wanted to Stick with Kelly. I guess only time will tell |
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Post by cardfan on May 7, 2024 9:13:33 GMT -6
Fail in terms of win/loss/inconsistent productivity. Point being, Plitt and Paddock both get/got NFL camp shots yet we had one winning record in all of their time and came up short far too often when we needed a game winning drive in the 4th qtr. Our one winning season was the covid year and while great, was an anomaly based on all the other Neu years. Kelly will probably go on to have a very nice college career and we couldn't do much with him because we chose not to. Will it be any different with Semonza? Having a former stud qb and "Drew Bree's QB coach" as head coach, you'd think we'd have gotten more out of the QB position over time. Part of the problem is totally on Lynch, I know. Never met a running play or short throw in the flat he didn't like. Part of it is the failure to recruit around the QB's we did have-- some years the WR positions were weak, some years the oline couldn't pass protect well enough. The totality is a lot of bad offensive football. You kinda bring up an interesting point with kelly.. There have been several grumblings that the decision to go with Semonza was not universal with the staff some wanted to Stick with Kelly. I guess only time will tell Refine Kelly's passing and you've got a dynamic offense. Or, don't try and he transfers out. I think we could have been much more diverse with a developing Kelly at QB vs. Semonza who will most likely be a pocket passer with medium arm strength, dependent on a strong oline to power the run game and protect long enough to complete a few passes. Will Semonza be any better than Plitt/Paddock? |
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 7, 2024 9:21:25 GMT -6
You kinda bring up an interesting point with kelly.. There have been several grumblings that the decision to go with Semonza was not universal with the staff some wanted to Stick with Kelly. I guess only time will tell Refine Kelly's passing and you've got a dynamic offense. Or, don't try and he transfers out. I think we could have been much more diverse with a developing Kelly at QB vs. Semonza who will most likely be a pocket passer with medium arm strength, dependent on a strong oline to power the run game and protect long enough to complete a few passes. Will Semonza be any better than Plitt/Paddock? Can you develope a a player this late in his career.. Can BSU develope a qb at all |
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Post by 00hmh on May 7, 2024 9:38:22 GMT -6
Fail in terms of win/loss/inconsistent productivity. Point being, Plitt and Paddock both get/got NFL camp shots yet we had one winning record in all of their time and came up short far too often when we needed a game winning drive in the 4th qtr. Our one winning season was the covid year and while great, was an anomaly based on all the other Neu years. Kelly will probably go on to have a very nice college career and we couldn't do much with him because we chose not to. Will it be any different with Semonza? Having a former stud qb and "Drew Bree's QB coach" as head coach, you'd think we'd have gotten more out of the QB position over time. Part of the problem is totally on Lynch, I know. Never met a running play or short throw in the flat he didn't like. Part of it is the failure to recruit around the QB's we did have-- some years the WR positions were weak, some years the oline couldn't pass protect well enough. The totality is a lot of bad offensive football. You kinda bring up an interesting point with kelly.. There have been several grumblings that the decision to go with Semonza was not universal with the staff some wanted to Stick with Kelly. I guess only time will tell Some of that had to be his intangibles. He did seem to light a fire when he got rolling. Balanced against that is the "fit" with the staff offensive preferences. And his weaknesses which any talk about development really confirm. If he's not ready to rock and roll at this point and build an offense around, or if we don't have the other pieces he needed for that to all happen, then making a decision is easy to understand.
The question is whether going with the "fit" is going to be something that we can make work more or less out of the box. We don't have more than a few games to get a good level offense established, if we lose early conference games the story is over.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 7, 2024 9:44:01 GMT -6
You kinda bring up an interesting point with kelly.. There have been several grumblings that the decision to go with Semonza was not universal with the staff some wanted to Stick with Kelly. I guess only time will tell Some of that had to be his intangibles. He did seem to light a fire when he got rolling. Balanced against that is the "fit" with the staff offensive preferences. And his weaknesses which any talk about development really confirm. If he's not ready to rock and roll at this point and build an offense around, or if we don't have the other pieces he needed for that to all happen, then making a decision is easy to understand.
The question is whether going with the "fit" is going to be something that we can make work more or less out of the box. We don't have more than a few games to get a good level offense established, if we lose early conference games the story is over.
If we lose early conference games this era of BSU Football is over |
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Post by 47306fan on May 14, 2024 9:40:46 GMT -6
I agree with calhoun, if they lose early it'll be a steamroller out of control. Let's hope the AD has the support to make the change.
I hope i'm wrong but I think it'll be a bad year win/loss wise.
I've seen some predictions saying we'll win 6 and go bowling, I'm not sure we'll be that lucky. I think we beat Missouri State and Kent. We barley beat NIU last year I don't think we repeat that one, I think we beat Buffalo. There might be one more there somewhere for a total of 4 wins.
What do you guys think?
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Post by universityjim on May 14, 2024 10:11:15 GMT -6
I think we are a better team talent wise than we were last year. I'm mildly optimistic about the OC change. Disappointed they didn't totally remove Kevin Lynch. The new DC sounds interesting but still a step down from what we had. We jettisoned at least one disruptive player. We could have the players to win a championship but have the coaches screw it up. There are no pushovers on the schedule. Hoping for the best. Expecting the worst.
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Post by cardfan on May 14, 2024 10:13:10 GMT -6
I think we are a better team talent wise than we were last year. I'm mildly optimistic about the OC change. Disappointed they didn't totally remove Kevin Lynch. The new DC sounds interesting but still a step down from what we had. We jettisoned at least one disruptive player. We could have the players to win a championship but have the coaches screw it up. There are no pushovers on the schedule. Hoping for the best. Expecting the worst. The Neu tenure in a nutshell. |
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Post by universityjim on May 14, 2024 10:28:06 GMT -6
I think we are a better team talent wise than we were last year. I'm mildly optimistic about the OC change. Disappointed they didn't totally remove Kevin Lynch. The new DC sounds interesting but still a step down from what we had. We jettisoned at least one disruptive player. We could have the players to win a championship but have the coaches screw it up. There are no pushovers on the schedule. Hoping for the best. Expecting the worst. The Neu tenure in a nutshell. Regardless of where our coaches rank on the pay scale of college football, we still pay these guys too much for the level of incompetence we've seen. |
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Post by coastalcard on May 14, 2024 10:43:56 GMT -6
My calculations have Neu making $715,000.00 in 2024
Not bad for a guy that is 40% successful at his job
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Post by CallingBS on May 14, 2024 11:48:48 GMT -6
I agree with calhoun, if they lose early it'll be a steamroller out of control. Let's hope the AD has the support to make the change. I hope i'm wrong but I think it'll be a bad year win/loss wise. I've seen some predictions saying we'll win 6 and go bowling, I'm not sure we'll be that lucky. I think we beat Missouri State and Kent. We barley beat NIU last year I don't think we repeat that one, I think we beat Buffalo. There might be one more there somewhere for a total of 4 wins. What do you guys think? Lembo will shred Neu strategy-wise...probably on the recruiting front too |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 14, 2024 16:13:22 GMT -6
Knowing BSU, we will go 0-6, fire Neu, promote someone to interim head coach, he’ll go 2-4 or 3-3 with some surprising wins or really tough losses, we’ll remove the interim tag, he’ll be a total flop in full years 1-3, year 4 he’ll do just enough to justify not firing him.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 14, 2024 19:01:26 GMT -6
Knowing BSU, we will go 0-6, fire Neu, promote someone to interim head coach, he’ll go 2-4 or 3-3 with some surprising wins or really tough losses, we’ll remove the interim tag, he’ll be a total flop in full years 1-3, year 4 he’ll do just enough to justify not firing him. Nah we got a heavy soph/jr team neu will get canned and someone will cash in with his players |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 14, 2024 19:26:36 GMT -6
Knowing BSU, we will go 0-6, fire Neu, promote someone to interim head coach, he’ll go 2-4 or 3-3 with some surprising wins or really tough losses, we’ll remove the interim tag, he’ll be a total flop in full years 1-3, year 4 he’ll do just enough to justify not firing him. Nah we got a heavy soph/jr team neu will get canned and someone will cash in with his players You must be new here to think BSU is capable of having success. |
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