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Post by rmcalhoun on May 25, 2024 10:25:11 GMT -6
so what is our AD thinking? This new ncaa settlement and revenue sharing seems potentially G5 crushing but your much more highly educated on the matter. Is it potentially as bad as it seems to be? His answer.... "It will certainly be different. We’re still waiting for the dust to settle, but we have an eye on continuing to be competitive." What can he say?
I doubt he knows much more than we do, which is that we are in the have not group which will have to come up with money we don't have and budgets will be cut. Longer term things will be changing in ways that are beyond his control. What will other conferences do similarly situated? Do we even have options, assuming the MAC continue to want to pretend to play FBS type FB?
It's the Presidents in the NCAA and at the conference levels which will have to make the heavy decisions after things settle out. He will no doubt be involved and advise. In the meantime he isn't going to say anything, if he does know something.
We can hope there has been some planning going on as this settlement developed, but there are so many variable decisions at the big conferences which will determine what we can possibly do, it's not like the ball is in our court at this point.
Nobody at lower levels even knows what options we will have to compete, much less what "competitive" in those areas will mean...
I agree not saying he should say or not say anything else.. Just passing on what he did say when i asked |
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Post by 00hmh on May 25, 2024 11:06:29 GMT -6
Of course.
That MAC angle isn't easy to figure.
We've mostly assumed the MAC would sort of hang on in FB, awaiting developments with P4.
This settlement changes that a bit, accelerates the creation of a divide.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 25, 2024 12:38:42 GMT -6
Of course. That MAC angle isn't easy to figure. We've mostly assumed the MAC would sort of hang on in FB, awaiting developments with P4. This settlement changes that a bit, accelerates the creation of a divide. its not hes decission anyway its the MACs unless of course he says we are leaving the MAC which will not happen unless others start to do so. While things are not great here our situation is not worst. We will not he the first to bail. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 25, 2024 13:09:20 GMT -6
Of course. That MAC angle isn't easy to figure. We've mostly assumed the MAC would sort of hang on in FB, awaiting developments with P4. This settlement changes that a bit, accelerates the creation of a divide. its not hes decission anyway its the MACs unless of course he says we are leaving the MAC which will not happen unless others start to do so. While things are not great here our situation is not worst. We will not he the first to bail. Yeah, I'm thinking the MAC Presidents will set options at the conference level what to do. Individual schools may conceivably have options but so many things we do have to be consistent with MAC agreed rules. How many sports? What level of support?
The whole conference might set common policy on major issues, scholarship levels, or pay scale or whatever, all within some MAC agreement.
I could conceivably see the MAC forced to make major change to survive, biting the bullet long before we expected they would have to. This 2 mil tax plus payment to players could be a game changer they can't ignore.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 25, 2024 14:40:13 GMT -6
In a perfect world tge entire g5 says we are not paying the 20 mil a year out to athletes. Not one single G5 is turning a profit. All subsidize through student fees and some much more than us
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Post by 00hmh on May 25, 2024 15:05:06 GMT -6
In a perfect world tge entire g5 says we are not paying the 20 mil a year out to athletes. Not one single G5 is turning a profit. All subsidize through student fees and some much more than us You are right this is a problem for all of G5, and there are other G5 institutions outside the MAC which are on the brink. Administrators do have the chance to royally screw this up, it definitely is not a perfect world...
Probably this hurts us a bit more, the MAC is at the bottom of G5 for a reason, and BSU is at in the bottom tier of the MAC in budget terms. For some of those conferences there are institutions, if not the whole conference, where their budget without subsidy is larger than ours with subsidy.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 26, 2024 11:56:01 GMT -6
In a perfect world tge entire g5 says we are not paying the 20 mil a year out to athletes. Not one single G5 is turning a profit. All subsidize through student fees and some much more than us You are right this is a problem for all of G5, and there are other G5 institutions outside the MAC which are on the brink. Administrators do have the chance to royally screw this up, it definitely is not a perfect world...
Probably this hurts us a bit more, the MAC is at the bottom of G5 for a reason, and BSU is at in the bottom tier of the MAC in budget terms. For some of those conferences there are institutions, if not the whole conference, where their budget without subsidy is larger than ours with subsidy.
Also lets not forget that all schools under the ncaa are paying back this 2.7 billion not just P5 and G5... Everyone all the little basketball cons the fcs even D2.. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 26, 2024 13:47:00 GMT -6
The low level teams pay less, I believe it is related to the revenue the teams received.
The new FB tournament TV contract will help us pay the 2mil judgment. It doesn't hit them too badly. Big East is complaining about their deal since without FB they say they had fewer athletes who have any real claim to revenue share.
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Post by CardsFB1 on May 27, 2024 8:04:17 GMT -6
You are right this is a problem for all of G5, and there are other G5 institutions outside the MAC which are on the brink. Administrators do have the chance to royally screw this up, it definitely is not a perfect world...
Probably this hurts us a bit more, the MAC is at the bottom of G5 for a reason, and BSU is at in the bottom tier of the MAC in budget terms. For some of those conferences there are institutions, if not the whole conference, where their budget without subsidy is larger than ours with subsidy.
Also lets not forget that all schools under the ncaa are paying back this 2.7 billion not just P5 and G5... Everyone all the little basketball cons the fcs even D2.. by the time you divide out this $ with the players over those years, each player probably going to get less than $10k per player. After taxes, you can buy a crappy used car. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 27, 2024 8:15:06 GMT -6
Also lets not forget that all schools under the ncaa are paying back this 2.7 billion not just P5 and G5... Everyone all the little basketball cons the fcs even D2.. by the time you divide out this $ with the players over those years, each player probably going to get less than $10k per player. After taxes, you can buy a crappy used car. It's not clear how they divide the money. While I believe members of the class can opt out, individual suits are not practical, so what they get is better than nothing...
Since the lawsuit was about a matter of principle, perhaps most of the class of plaintiffs will be fine and happy to see the future players benefit.
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