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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 4, 2024 8:34:15 GMT -6
I reached out to the guy who put these numbers togetger
It's about how much of the dept budget is allocated to the individual sports, or how much is grouped together as unallocated and overhead
(which can weigh down or lighten the per sport spending)
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 4, 2024 8:40:18 GMT -6
I also reached to the person who I think wants me to push this. what I think is happening is money is being raised and instead of going back into programs and players its going into a general allocation thats being spent on whatever. Its not going back into programs where the donor intended it to go
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 4, 2024 9:04:03 GMT -6
I also reached to the person who I think wants me to push this. what I think is happening is money is being raised and instead of going back into programs and players its going into a general allocation thats being spent on whatever. Its not going back into programs where the donor intended it to go These numbers would not address where money came from though. He may have a point, but it's going to be hard to tell it . What the donor wants is MORE money than the norm in the past going somewhere. Understandable, but pretty hard to run the department without making some budget transfers as needed. You'd have to look at years of data, and every transaction and the reason for it to evaluate the AD. |
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Post by cardfan on Jun 4, 2024 9:33:31 GMT -6
If a donor has specified where they want money to go, can it really be routed elsewhere?? How is that conducive to building donor relationships?
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Post by universityjim on Jun 4, 2024 9:35:59 GMT -6
If a donor has specified where they want money to go, can it really be routed elsewhere?? How is that conducive to building donor relationships? My side gig is running a not for profit corporation and if money is earmarked by a donor it can not be routed elsewhere. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 4, 2024 11:09:11 GMT -6
If a donor has specified where they want money to go, can it really be routed elsewhere?? How is that conducive to building donor relationships? My side gig is running a not for profit corporation and if money is earmarked by a donor it can not be routed elsewhere. That is not quite true at the University, or not quite that simple. At least for most gifts. Of course most gifts end up going to accounts with the University Foundation where the the University will have broad discretion anyway. Even where very limited and strictly designated, or restricted, the money just can't be spent at all if the President doesn't sign off. And rarely is the gift really nailed down with iron clad limits.
A gift is a gift is largely true. Not yours anymore. A pledge is enforceable if the donee has relied on it or makes plans to use it as it is determined to be designated. So what counts as reliance?
We have many designated accounts which a department head can't access at all without Dean, VP, and President signing off. The designee has to request approval. Also original designated or restricted purpose may become impossible or not practically met (maintenance or support for a facility or academic program or scholarship for which the use no longer exists). These accounts are often then used for purposes that are at best a stretch, or at least probably never occured to the donor, the original donor either long gone, or not involved.
Who decides what meets donor intent in the restricted or designated account is not made in most cases by the donor, or the even intended designated program or individual user. While obviously a disgruntled donor is not desirable, there often isn't exactly a remedy even if he disagrees how it is spent. For very large donations, like brick and mortar, or for some recurring expenditures, the donor may plan a series of restricted gift payments to arrive at the time the future funding for the project requires it. If that changes...
There is a lot of theory on how this should work, and why it doesn't work as expected.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 4, 2024 11:15:45 GMT -6
If a donor has specified where they want money to go, can it really be routed elsewhere?? How is that conducive to building donor relationships? It's more a problem that the money actually does go to the intended place, but OTHER money controlled by higher administration is NOT then spent there, money that may have been allocated there in a past budget year. Budget allocation is separate from transfers in and out of the department budget, either from the AD or the Foundation. Get a big gift, reduce the department funds from other sources.
That gift could be spent as desired by the donor, but you can't count on the AD then repurposing other funds to where they are needed. Sometimes this is undoubtedly the right thing to do. Other times it punishes the lucky or effective fund raiser.
Any University department head knows he might go out and find donors and end up not getting the full benefit of the gift. Worse maybe is that your Dean or higher administrator may poach the donor you found for other future gifts and you lose a resource then.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jun 5, 2024 5:51:55 GMT -6
Worse maybe is that your Dean or higher administrator may poach the donor you found for other future gifts and you lose a resource then.
Deans have a knack for screwing up relationships that their underlings have spent years cultivating, and then leaving to take a higher position at another university. And yes, I'm thinking of one dean in particular. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 5, 2024 6:10:15 GMT -6
I also reached to the person who I think wants me to push this. what I think is happening is money is being raised and instead of going back into programs and players its going into a general allocation thats being spent on whatever. Its not going back into programs where the donor intended it to go Donor got what he should have expected when dealing with that sort of people. No doubt he also got some sort is wordy, sanctimonious, self-righteous, hypocritical bullshit excuse as to why his money wasn't going where he intended. NCAA apparatchiks are very good at that sort of thing. He should have worked with other boosters and put his money in something straightforward and honest like NIL. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 5, 2024 9:34:39 GMT -6
His money very likely went where he wanted. Then the AD maybe held back other discretionary money.
Budget and spending is always under AD control. And donor money can't be spent without specific approval.
It sounded like Lewis had trouble with that on that one BB trip. Probably thought he had extra donor money and spent it without watching the red tape. Figured he could reimburse the money he spent feom his regular approved budget.
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Post by coastalcard on Jun 5, 2024 10:20:44 GMT -6
I always earmark my donations to improving the Campus Police firearm arsenal
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