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Post by 00hmh on Jul 3, 2024 9:21:40 GMT -6
The great thing is you can say the same thing about the other side of the political aisle. You can say Donald Trump is "dangerous"... but he's not incompetent. Joe Biden is not running the country. Who is? Not knowing who is running the country is far more dangerous than anything Trump has ever done or ever could do. The Presidency has limits/restrictions on what he can do. He's his own worst enemy, with some of the things he claims he'll do.
As for those limits, it's kind of a new ball game. A second term would have fewer limits than his first for sure. He's shown he will just fire people who try to limit him and the inertia of federal bureaucracy is less, it has been limited by the Court. I certainly don't see that Court limiting him very much...
I had some optimism in term 1 that he would bring in business guys and work to pare down government, and back away from his campaign rhetoric when he faced reality. But surgical, careful change is not exactly his style.
His campaign is all about things his constituents don't think work, but doesn't really show he knows how government works for others or to tell which things have some reason behind them, or even if they don't work well, are hard to dismantle and rebuild without greater cost than is worth it.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 3, 2024 9:27:40 GMT -6
But if you've spent the last 8 years slurping up the cartoon version of pure evil Trump you've been fed by the establishment media, then you will see things differently.
Remember - the people bought the establishment's cover up of Biden's condition bought it because they WANTED to buy it, even though it became progressively more ridiculous as time went on. People stay in echo chambers because they like it that way.
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Post by universityjim on Jul 3, 2024 11:56:57 GMT -6
The great thing is you can say the same thing about the other side of the political aisle. You can say Donald Trump is "dangerous"... but he's not incompetent. Joe Biden is not running the country. Who is? Not knowing who is running the country is far more dangerous than anything Trump has ever done or ever could do. The Presidency has limits/restrictions on what he can do. If the President isn't calling the shots, how can there be limits? And that is why the people who actually ARE running the country don't care that Biden is brain dead. They need a puppet who they can control and Joe Biden is that puppet. They'll ride with that puppet as long as they can. Once they can't they'll throw him to the dogs and find another. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 3, 2024 13:46:47 GMT -6
Not knowing who is running the country is far more dangerous than anything Trump has ever done or ever could do. The Presidency has limits/restrictions on what he can do. If the President isn't calling the shots, how can there be limits? And that is why the people who actually ARE running the country don't care that Biden is brain dead. They need a puppet who they can control and Joe Biden is that puppet. They'll ride with that puppet as long as they can. Once they can't they'll throw him to the dogs and find another. Civil service professionals should often be left alone to do their jobs. Do that too much is a problem. The problem for the executive is to decide which functions are which, what is best, what is disaster, what is improvement, but maybe not perfect.
Brain dead is bad. Might not understand when things don't work. A good brain is a problem when it is ignorance of how things work, and understanding what is working, or decisions are driven by ego and political expediency. Too much of the time to fix something you need compromise and, sometimes you need action by the Congress. Neither, something we have seen politicians willing to do for 8 years or more.
Compromise means accepting something your side doesn't like to get the best possible outcome. What we see is high and mighty politics and gridlock.
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Post by lmills72 on Jul 3, 2024 18:05:08 GMT -6
The fact that people don't think there are puppet masters pulling Trump's strings (i.e., other people running the country) is laughable and sad at the same time. Trump has demonstrated for decades that he cares about two things and neither of those have anything to do with love of country or patriotism. He's willing to push whatever agenda someone puts before him if he thinks it'll get him what he wants. As long as your agenda matches that of Trump's controllers you all should be very happy together.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 3, 2024 20:51:11 GMT -6
Oh yes obviously. That’s the first thing you notice about trump. He’s a weak-willed submissive type of person who craves others to dictate what he should do.
Anyone can see that
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 4, 2024 6:49:16 GMT -6
Oh yes obviously. That’s the first thing you notice about trump. He’s a weak-willed submissive type of person who craves others to dictate what he should do. Anyone can see that That's right. Rather than be weak willed or dictated to, he's more likely to be manipulated by ego, and greed, making a "good deal" for himself, in the driver's seat. Your point above about ego and pride was a good one. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 4, 2024 7:35:02 GMT -6
By the way, do yourself a favor and monitor the situation by watching the odds swings resulting from people putting their money where their mouth is: election oddsYour usual news sources are full of the usual bias, wishful thinking and people trying to manage expectations and push agendas. It currently seems that the Democrats are stuck with affirmative action artifact Kamala Harris as the only alternative to the comatose Biden. A classic example of why it's such a terrible idea to limit your choices for an important position according to skin color, gender, or both. |
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Post by lmills72 on Jul 4, 2024 19:31:30 GMT -6
Oh yes obviously. That’s the first thing you notice about trump. He’s a weak-willed submissive type of person who craves others to dictate what he should do. Anyone can see that You make one good point and ignore another. Yes, Trump refuses to have anything dictated to him or give an inch in bargaining, which is why he's never passed any meaningful legislation, and never will if he has to work with anyone on the other side of the aisle. And no, you don't control Trump by dictating to him. You control him by offering him the things he craves. You think Trump gave a shit about abortion? But all those religious right dollars and votes brought them the Supreme Court they wanted. Now, to an extent that's politics as usual, but wait ... didn't all those Trump voters put him in office to end politics as usual, not perpetuate it? What they're also willing to ignore is that if the pro-life camp upped the ante, Trump would do the same for them if he gets a chance. His agenda is totally up for bid. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 5, 2024 6:43:18 GMT -6
Trump occasionally gives in bargaining. Of course he also often enough breaks his word and doesn't pay the price he agreed... he's left a string of broken business deals.
If you look at his political promises it's also a very mixed bag.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 5, 2024 7:34:59 GMT -6
Wait!! Wait just a minute!!! Are you guys telling me Trump is a politician who accepts money from special interests and who sometimes breaks promises???!!??
Holy shit!!! Ok then. I'm switching my preference to Biden...or Harris or whoever.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 5, 2024 9:00:25 GMT -6
Oh yes obviously. That’s the first thing you notice about trump. He’s a weak-willed submissive type of person who craves others to dictate what he should do. Anyone can see that You make one good point and ignore another. Yes, Trump refuses to have anything dictated to him or give an inch in bargaining, which is why he's never passed any meaningful legislation, and never will if he has to work with anyone on the other side of the aisle. And no, you don't control Trump by dictating to him. You control him by offering him the things he craves. You think Trump gave a shit about abortion? But all those religious right dollars and votes brought them the Supreme Court they wanted. Now, to an extent that's politics as usual, but wait ... didn't all those Trump voters put him in office to end politics as usual, not perpetuate it? What they're also willing to ignore is that if the pro-life camp upped the ante, Trump would do the same for them if he gets a chance. His agenda is totally up for bid. By the way, when I see the intellectual level of debate around abortion, I wonder if Americans should really be trusted with self-rule at all. Maybe we would have been better off losing WWII and being ruled by the Japanese or something. The crux of the matter is whether or not a second life is involved. It's a question involving the deepest scientific, moral and philosophical questions. But yet the entire debate is conducted in terms of hysterical political partisanship, idiotic slogans and accusations and hatred toward one's political opponents. It's disgusting. How many people that "care" so much as to attend an abortion-related rally could explain the most basic facts of conception and the development of human life? Americans never look more stupid, shallow and dishonest than when arguing abortion. |
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Post by rusty on Jul 5, 2024 10:20:44 GMT -6
If you support a convicted felon, convicted fraud and sexual predator then I am suspect of your character and moral values!
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Post by williamtsherman on Jul 5, 2024 10:59:54 GMT -6
Hopefully it won't become a regular thing in America to set up your political opponents with a trial using one of your hyper-partisan prosecutors or judges in an area where you can be sure to pack the jury with your voters as a cheap political stunt.
but I have a bad feeling this IS going to become a regular thing.
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Post by 00hmh on Jul 5, 2024 14:35:06 GMT -6
The deep philosophical issue is not whether living tissue exists but whether the life is a person with rights superior to that of the pregnant woman.
The woman's right to life and perhaps her right to support after being raped and forced to carry to term is also a philosophical issue.
Who should decide?
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