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Post by thebsukid on Sept 27, 2024 15:39:36 GMT -6
Okay, with a crappy football team it’s about time to make our annual projections for a starting line up! I must confess it’s harder to project than normal because we may just be as deep and talented as we have been in a long time.
Here’s my stab at it:
PG Watts Gorosito Burch Clancy 2 Hernandez Hart Hill 3 Pearson Bearden 4 Jones Zagorsak 5 Sparks Hendricks Doughty
I could see us playing big at times but also could see some 3 guard line ups! I believe we could see 9-10 players in the early rotations.
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Post by bsu1 on Sept 27, 2024 16:43:07 GMT -6
The only thing I disagree with is Joey Hart will start instead of Jones.
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 27, 2024 17:16:19 GMT -6
It starts with Sparks who needs to be surrounded by shooters. Great to think Ben will be able to get some minutes. Sparks needs back up.
Yes. Watts and Gorosito should share minutes at PG.
Since our Hart, Hernandez are good-sized, good athletes and both scorers, 3 guards seem more likely than their sharing time. Hill playing as off guard might make us smaller, but he's an athlete. Fits a 3G role though. Give him minutes would probably require that, he's not an outside shooter. That's 5 good guards who need to play.
Pearson is a sure starter. Jones should be in top 9. Mostly for Pearson or in standard lineups with 2 forwards.
Freshmen not likely to play. Zag is a cypher, a surprise he plays much. Not many minutes for Doughty unless we play big, I doubt much of that.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 27, 2024 18:25:26 GMT -6
It may be the correct call to suggest Hart over Jones but I went with Jones as he knows the system and is a good defender.
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 27, 2024 20:51:53 GMT -6
It may be the correct call to suggest Hart over Jones but I went with Jones as he knows the system and is a good defender. I'm a fan of Jones, very versatile, better floor game than I expected, but he's playing Forward behind Pearson, a senior who has more shooting the way I see it. In a 3G lineup most of the time, one forward. If one of those wings doesn't produce, he'll step in, maybe. Hill may be the X factor. A junior, athletic. Played good competition. If he can defend he'll play a lot as a 2G. Hart or Hernandez on the wing. A top 20 JUCO, if he's that, usually has a chance at our level.
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Post by zonebuster on Sept 28, 2024 6:45:14 GMT -6
My starters: 5 - Sparks 4 - Pearson 3 - Hernandez 2 - Hart 1 - Gorosito
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 28, 2024 7:40:40 GMT -6
My starters: 5 - Sparks 4 - Pearson 3 - Hernandez 2 - Hart 1 - Gorosito I could see that. The case for starting steady hand Watts is playmaking, and it would be nice to keep one shooter as a sixth man to provide a boost off the bench. Case for Hill to start as a 2G is as an athletic player who can match up with most guards we'll face, if he can become the kind of defender he could be. Case for Jones is to add size. So maybe 8 players might start. Some remote chance we see Ben become a true PF and earn more minutes than a reserve, but last year we really didn't quite have a 7 man rotation, this year looks like 9 or more potentially.
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 28, 2024 8:27:12 GMT -6
Unless I am drastically overestimating the results of the staff's roster building efforts this past off season, we should NOT need to start any players who are offensive liabilities this season. In fact, i would hope that such players will need to play very little at all. Seems to me we will be able to fill all spots on the floor with players that opponents' defenses will need to guard and respect. This factor alone should do a lot to keep us out of will-we-won't-we-make-the-MAC-tourney territory.
Seems to me at this point that Sparks, Pearson, Hart, Hernandez are fairly obvious starters. This would appear to leave an opening for a ball-handling perimeter player in the starting line up.
It would appear to be a very finely balanced question as to who between Gorosito and Watts will be the more effective player and 5th starter. Gorosito averaged 8.6 ppg 2.6 apg for Portland. Watts averaged 8.6 2.0 for Boston. It's very comforting to have two players with track records of reasonably good production in D1 as candidates to fill your last starting spot.
Hill is the one player who might upset the apple cart I've described above. And I mean "upset" in a good way...as in being too good not to start. I've always found it difficult to project JUCO players so I'm just going to leave him as a wildcard.
The remaining players don't offer a whole lot to suggest they will be effective D1 players this season. Possibly capable fill ins, but if they are more than that it would be a wonderful surprise.
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Post by lmills72 on Sept 28, 2024 9:05:13 GMT -6
Given the number of new faces, it's pretty ridiculous to even speculate on this. Sparks will start. Other than that, who knows?
But the football team does suck so ... even ridiculous speculation about the basketball team is better than talking about that.
Please continue.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 28, 2024 13:34:18 GMT -6
Well, considering what has been said it would appear that Sparks, Pearson, and Hernandez are very likely starting whomever else is starting is probably anyone’s guess?! The good news is the past several years we didn’t have the same depth but we likely have 8-9 players that could start.
I think this bodes well for this season
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Post by thebsukid on Oct 9, 2024 18:50:28 GMT -6
Bearden is going to be hard to keep off the floor.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 10, 2024 14:34:02 GMT -6
I can imagine him as defensive stopper, or in a pressure defense.
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Post by williamtsherman on Oct 10, 2024 15:59:41 GMT -6
Just went back and looked at his HS highlights.
Best case scenario: Jeermal Sylvester
Worst case scenario: Steve Smith
Don't ask me where within this wide range he will fall. I don't know.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 10, 2024 17:00:03 GMT -6
Just went back and looked at his HS highlights. Best case scenario: Jeermal Sylvester Worst case scenario: Steve Smith Don't ask me where within this wide range he will fall. I don't know. Robbie Owens.
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 11, 2024 7:47:52 GMT -6
Unless I am drastically overestimating the results of the staff's roster building efforts this past off season, we should NOT need to start any players who are offensive liabilities this season. In fact, i would hope that such players will need to play very little at all. Seems to me we will be able to fill all spots on the floor with players that opponents' defenses will need to guard and respect. This factor alone should do a lot to keep us out of will-we-won't-we-make-the-MAC-tourney territory. Seems to me at this point that Sparks, Pearson, Hart, Hernandez are fairly obvious starters. This would appear to leave an opening for a ball-handling perimeter player in the starting line up. It would appear to be a very finely balanced question as to who between Gorosito and Watts will be the more effective player and 5th starter. Gorosito averaged 8.6 ppg 2.6 apg for Portland. Watts averaged 8.6 2.0 for Boston. It's very comforting to have two players with track records of reasonably good production in D1 as candidates to fill your last starting spot. Hill is the one player who might upset the apple cart I've described above. And I mean "upset" in a good way...as in being too good not to start. I've always found it difficult to project JUCO players so I'm just going to leave him as a wildcard. The remaining players don't offer a whole lot to suggest they will be effective D1 players this season. Possibly capable fill ins, but if they are more than that it would be a wonderful surprise. I've been out of pocket for a couple weeks and return to a not very encouraging early result. I envisioned Hart and Sparks as our two top scorers and see they totaled a combined zero buckets against Geo St. Now fear I have drastically overestimated Hart and wonder if Sparks really has gotten worse over his college career.
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