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Post by CallingBS on Nov 8, 2024 7:35:47 GMT -6
Did you guys notice that virtually every time we put Kelly in we run!! Do you think the competition knows, duh! I don't understand why we force Kelly into our offense on QB run plays - it is almost always a wasted a play. We should move him WR Slot position so we can keep him on the field. Agreed, but the problem with using Kelly at all is that he's so one-dimensional (not a receiver, not a passer, not a blocker) that the defense knows what's coming when he's on the field. And as Chirprising said, he doesn't know how to read defenses or follow blocks. |
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Post by cardfan on Nov 8, 2024 7:46:29 GMT -6
I don't understand why we force Kelly into our offense on QB run plays - it is almost always a wasted a play. We should move him WR Slot position so we can keep him on the field. Agreed, but the problem with using Kelly at all is that he's so one-dimensional (not a receiver, not a passer, not a blocker) that the defense knows what's coming when he's on the field. And as Chirprising said, he doesn't know how to read defenses or follow blocks. Bottomline, total fail on the part of Neu/Elliott/Lynch and anyone else involved in NOT developing this kid. More talented than a lot of guys but we can barely make good use of him. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 8, 2024 9:50:45 GMT -6
Did you guys notice that virtually every time we put Kelly in we run!! Do you think the competition knows, duh! I don't understand why we force Kelly into our offense on QB run plays - it is almost always a wasted a play. We should move him WR Slot position so we can keep him on the field. Or allow him to pass it. The running QB only works if teams fear the pass. When Kelly takes the snap everyone knows it's going right up the middle for no gain. Except on the 2-point conversion which was very creative and took advantage of the other team expecting our tendency, it's a total waste. And it's not worth running it up the gut for no gain 15 times to set up the one time we break tendency. |
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Post by cardfan on Nov 8, 2024 10:26:29 GMT -6
I don't understand why we force Kelly into our offense on QB run plays - it is almost always a wasted a play. We should move him WR Slot position so we can keep him on the field. Or allow him to pass it. The running QB only works if teams fear the pass. When Kelly takes the snap everyone knows it's going right up the middle for no gain. Except on the 2-point conversion which was very creative and took advantage of the other team expecting our tendency, it's a total waste. And it's not worth running it up the gut for no gain 15 times to set up the one time we break tendency. He could fake a run, because he always runs, and totally suck the d in and someone, somewhere, will be running wide open. Just let him throw it a couple times to make the D respect that and it'll open up running lanes, AND, tell the young man to please give it to the running back a time or two to add to the variety and deception. Is it a true "option" play of any kind if there is but one option? Otherwise, chuck that part of the playbook. it's not fully developed and actualized anyway. A: We aren't winning 3 in a row to end the season and become bowl eligible. (even if we do I really think we need a change in coach anyway) B: Assuming we do move on from Mike I hope: 1. Kaiel gives the new coach a listen to see if he has a TRUE plan on how to make the best use of him. If he doesn't get a good vibe, transfer to someplace they will let him play QB. 2. If kelly stays, I hope the new coach understands the talent there and can actually capitalize fully on his talents, OR he tells Kaiel he thinks he should find another program where he can play the position he really wants. Just freaking be honest with the kid! C. The next coach will have some talent if he chooses to try to recruit it to stay at BSU. The new coach had better be damn savvy and persistent in the portal because the portal is where we need to pick up the difference makers at key spots. D. I hope the next coach knows what the hell he's doing with offense but also better be able to attract a solid d coordinator. Don't have the be the best d in the mac if the offense is good enough. We've had a really good defense prior to this year but the offense wasn't good enough so it was wasted. This year the D is finally rounding into shape and the offense totally let them down vs Miami. E. BSU as a whole needs to decide what they want from the football program. Just a sport to have to stay in the MAC? Ok with being mediocre because it's easier and "cheaper?" Don't care about it one way or another? The president just likes it for PR purposes? Truly want to be consistently good? What, WHAT does the university administration want out of the football program? |
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Post by sdacardinal on Nov 8, 2024 11:16:45 GMT -6
The track record over various administration has been for mediocracy and saving money. We were the last school to get an indoor practice facility. It was perfectly ok for the administration to let our players freeze their asses off on an outdoor practice field all these years while the University was able to raise 20 million and bragged about it. In spite of this our players gave it their all most of the time. However the year after the bowl win was a disgraceful mess. The administration continues to tout that even with our dismal record over all these years we are building character and are preparing these young men for the "real world".
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Post by chupacabra on Nov 8, 2024 12:43:44 GMT -6
1) Kelly is NOT a quarterback. He has had ample opportunities to prove himself and failed. Poor decision making and poor accuracy. Have the guts to tell the kid the truth, and quit wasting an offense play watching him run into a wall of defenders.
2) Our defense is rounding into form??? What are you watching? We are 129 out of 133, and gave up over 120 points in two games. Our defense is a joke.
3) Our true liability is our sports administration. They continue to operate like incompetent, cheap fools. They have limited intelligence and do not understand what a successful football program can contribute to the bottom line of a division 1 school.
I have no confidence if they fire Neu they will make a good decision with the new hire.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 8, 2024 13:04:35 GMT -6
1) Kelly is NOT a quarterback. He has had ample opportunities to prove himself and failed. Poor decision making and poor accuracy. Have the guts to tell the kid the truth, and quit wasting an offense play watching him run into a wall of defenders. 2) Our defense is rounding into form??? What are you watching? We are 129 out of 133, and gave up over 120 points in two games. Our defense is a joke. 3) Our true liability is our sports administration. They continue to operate like incompetent, cheap fools. They have limited intelligence and do not understand what a successful football program can contribute to the bottom line of a division 1 school. I have no confidence if they fire Neu they will make a good decision with the new hire. Two games you picked are Miami (Fla) and James Madison. Both non conf and Miami is a top 4 team. The rounding into form I'm referring to are the last 3 games- we gave up 24 to Vandy, 23 to NIU, and 27 to Miami. Those 3 games the defense was plenty good enough to win all 3 and it was the offense that came up short in the Vandy and Miami games. Those 3 games are an avg. of 25 points a game. That rate would have us 6 in the mac in scoring defense. Not great, no, but not terrible either. If we had that average in all mac games the only MAC loss we'd have would be Miami. We scored 34 and 42 in our losses to CMU and WMU earlier in the season. So, looking at the last 3 games, which is what I was doing, yeah, the defense is rounding into shape. That doesn't mean Buffalo won't blow our doors off, but right now, at this moment, the defense is playing much better than it had been. |
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 8, 2024 23:07:27 GMT -6
Little picture: We suck
Big picture: So does the entire MAC.
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 9, 2024 6:05:24 GMT -6
I don't understand why we force Kelly into our offense on QB run plays - it is almost always a wasted a play. We should move him WR Slot position so we can keep him on the field. Agreed, but the problem with using Kelly at all is that he's so one-dimensional (not a receiver, not a passer, not a blocker) that the defense knows what's coming when he's on the field. And as Chirprising said, he doesn't know how to read defenses or follow blocks. I've given this a lot of thought and I have finally deduced that the whole preventing Kelly from transferring thing and strategery for letting everyone think he was a DB and penultimate strategery of wildcat/running him up the middle every time he is in the game thing is a very calculated plan that Neu and Kevin developed over beers from last January that will come to fruition in our last game to deceive the opposing team on a very important 4th and 19 from our own 20 with the season on the line................it's the only thing that makes sense. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 9, 2024 6:55:31 GMT -6
A new coach is not that likely a dramatic difference. Sure, it MIGHT be. Sure, it changes the narrative briefly. Rally around the new guy, hope springs eternal.
That's the time honored MAC administrative norm. It's a only slight variation on kick the can down the road, if you don't have real budget to win, or if all you care about is the occasional MAC glory year, but we can't afford to do it very much.
A half million every 6-7 years for a buyout gives an AD cover, let's us talk about a new start.
But it's a new start with the same basic problem. Can't really afford a top hire with a good staff. That's more than half a mil every year. Plus NIL.
The administration wants the occasional good year which has been able to be done that way. Neu did it. Next coach MIGHT.
With new NIL demands, it will be harder, although the whole MAC faces that.
Mills nailed the frustrating reality above.
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Post by grass on Nov 9, 2024 8:50:54 GMT -6
A new coach is not that likely a dramatic difference. Sure, it MIGHT be. Sure, it changes the narrative briefly. Rally around the new guy, hope springs eternal. The last 20 years, we’ve given 3 guys first time HC jobs (Neu, Hoke, and Parrish) - all very good position coaches. Always a roll of the dice - gotta start somewhere. If we change HCs after this year, we should strongly consider either a highly successful coordinator (5+ years exp), a recently successful P5 HC who was fired and is looking for stability (i.e., Solich, McElwain, etc.), or a highly successful FCS, Div 2, or Div 3 coach - like Brian Kelly and Chuck Martin). If we choose a WR or DB coach from so and so, well, another roll of the dice - and likely under 50% chance of success. |
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Post by amishalum on Nov 9, 2024 10:27:33 GMT -6
A new coach is not that likely a dramatic difference. Sure, it MIGHT be. Sure, it changes the narrative briefly. Rally around the new guy, hope springs eternal. The last 20 years, we’ve given 3 guys first time HC jobs (Neu, Hoke, and Parrish) - all very good position coaches. Always a roll of the dice - gotta start somewhere. If we change HCs after this year, we should strongly consider either a highly successful coordinator (5+ years exp), a recently successful P5 HC who was fired and is looking for stability (i.e., Solich, McElwain, etc.), or a highly successful FCS, Div 2, or Div 3 coach - like Brian Kelly and Chuck Martin). If we choose a WR or DB coach from so and so, well, another roll of the dice - and likely under 50% chance of success. Standard procedure for schools at our level is usually to hire an assistant from a P5 school. I think there’s greater chance for success looking to hire a successful head coach from a lower level (FCS, D2,etc). Someone who has a successful system in place and knows how to be a leader of a winning program. Same principles usually apply at any level |
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Post by connecticutcard on Nov 9, 2024 12:04:52 GMT -6
any chance we could lure Chris Keevers away from uindy?
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Post by cardfan on Nov 9, 2024 13:16:15 GMT -6
I’m all for going after a successful d2 or d3 HC. A guy who already knows how to organize and run a program, recruit, and win. You can probably attract one of those guys without breaking the bank. Lembo won quickly with Stan’s recruits. Just didn’t finish the job.
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Post by CardsFB1 on Nov 10, 2024 9:52:03 GMT -6
Buffalo game will be interesting - Lembo & team will be motivated, weather will be cold at mid-30's temp, long travel for team, & MACtion will have zero crowd on Tuesday. Buffalo is favored so win at 68.7% - havent' seen betting line yet. I am projecting loss of 24-17.
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