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Post by thebsukid on Nov 16, 2024 14:55:18 GMT -6
If we shoot like this the rest of the season we will finish near the MAC bottom!!
No effort no intensity
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 16, 2024 14:59:29 GMT -6
If you would have told me before the season that Mickey Pearson was going to be our top 3-point shooter, I would have said we're going to be terrible.
Well ... we're terrible.
Our best offense is Hill or Burch going 1-on-1.
We have no defense.
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Post by coastalcard on Nov 16, 2024 14:59:46 GMT -6
Didn’t Indiana State lose their coach and most of their team last year 🤔 Guess Starting over keeps you ahead |
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 16, 2024 15:27:11 GMT -6
Maybe we should just drop men's basketball and football and devote our resources to men's and women's volleyball and women's basketball. At least in those sport we have capable coaches who might actually win something if given more to work with. If sports salaries were merit based, Cruz, Phillips and Sallee would make 2-3x what Neu and Lewis make.
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Post by mattg on Nov 16, 2024 15:30:21 GMT -6
Season is early, but I’m already concerned.
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 16, 2024 15:34:49 GMT -6
On the bright side, no one is going to give Joey Hart a ton of NIL to leave BSU next season.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 16, 2024 15:35:12 GMT -6
I’m most concerned about our lack of effort and communication on the floor; we were outrebounded by 14! We had 50% of the assists that ISU had.
Not playing as a team not playing with great effort.
Terrible in a word
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 16, 2024 16:02:06 GMT -6
There is reason for MAJOR concern at this point. My expectations just took a serious nosedive.
ISU will be bottom half, maybe even bottom third, of the MVC. They got beat by 33 by FAU and only scored 72 in a loss to SIUE (Yes, the Edwardsville version of SIU). We gave them 94 on our home floor in a key recruiting battle. Keep in mind ISU turned its entire roster over, so we have to quit using that excuse for our coach/ team, who essentially returned 3 starters (counting Sparks) and Hendriks as a key role player.
Defensively: Awful
Rebounding: Pathetic
Shooting: Abysmal
Ball Handling: Pretty rough
Shot selection: Terrible
Ball movement: Virtually non-existent
Burch came out of his shell offensively a bit, but he's really bad defensively. Needs to get stronger.
ISU beat us with zero post game. Sparks looked better today, but he still can't shoot FT's and doesn't move well. He was lazy on the boards and defensive end most of the afternoon.
Graves 100% out-game planned Lewis, and I have very little respect for Graves as a coach. He's the first coach to see film on Hill and take his game away. Hill's (and the rest of the team's) lack of ability to shoot will allow teams to pack the lane on us. Pearson has to QUIT SHOOTING (Yes, I'm shouting).
Our roster got exposed big-time today.
I'm disgusted with our effort, lack of teamwork, and decision-making today. Gonna be a long season.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 16, 2024 16:28:16 GMT -6
On the bright side, no one is going to give Joey Hart a ton of NIL to leave BSU next season. This is a huge issue to me. Arguably our top recruit has had absolutely no impact on this team thus far. You could blame the kid and say he hasn't worked hard enough, not doing the right things, etc. But based on how this whole team is playing, I'm inclined to blame the coaching staff. They were ecstatic to get him, it's their job to coach the kid up, coax the best out of him. Four games in and this relationship already is giving me Mike Neu-Kiael Kelly vibes. |
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Post by CallingBS on Nov 16, 2024 16:30:44 GMT -6
On the bright side, no one is going to give Joey Hart a ton of NIL to leave BSU next season. This is a huge issue to me. Arguably our top recruit has had absolutely no impact on this team thus far. You could blame the kid and say he hasn't worked hard enough, not doing the right things, etc. But based on how this whole team is playing, I'm inclined to blame the coaching staff. They were ecstatic to get him, it's their job to coach the kid up, coax the best out of him. Four games in and this relationship already is giving me Mike Neu-Kiael Kelly vibes. I'm not so sure. He was out hurt for 6 weeks before the season started. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 16, 2024 16:33:47 GMT -6
At end of first half I thought we had solved the puzzle. At that point ISU had been hitting 3's, I was not expecting that to continue.
To some extent true second half, but they more than made up for it by exposing our defense near the basket. Killed us by beating our outside defenders on the dribble and forcing help, leaving ISU players open for layups.
We have no rim protector, so we absolutely have to stop drives to the basket.
I'll second the motion above that we have not produced the expected outside shooting, especially from wing players. AND, today at least we could not finish. Hill and Watts today had some good shots, could not hit. Sparks worked hard on offense, got his shots, and I'll give him credit for that, but missing a basket at the rim, and then missing half your FT's on a foul just isn't as good as getting the basket and making the bonus FT 50%...
We've got Burch and Hill playing better than expected, but not going to be outside shooters, Hernandez hit his FTs, was not our worst on defense, but not as good as expected, not getting shots in the lane. Gorosito is more or less as expected. With Watts, Burch, Gorosito, that PG position has potential.
We really need Hart to be be what he can be. And, we need Sparks to recover from his illness. If that is it. On that count, a rumor heard at the game about Sparks is that he has been quite ill, unable to practice at anything like full speed, was taken from practice for care and in the hospital for a few days. Seems consistent with Lewis playing him only for a few minutes at a time.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 16, 2024 16:41:30 GMT -6
On the bright side, no one is going to give Joey Hart a ton of NIL to leave BSU next season. This is a huge issue to me. Arguably our top recruit has had absolutely no impact on this team thus far. You could blame the kid and say he hasn't worked hard enough, not doing the right things, etc. But based on how this whole team is playing, I'm inclined to blame the coaching staff. They were ecstatic to get him, it's their job to coach the kid up, coax the best out of him. Four games in and this relationship already is giving me Mike Neu-Kiael Kelly vibes. I don't see the comparison to Kelly. He's not playing well, disappointing, that's true enough. I am not prepared to explain it, but right now he's fighting for PT, belongs behind Hernandez and Hill, and we need him, since neither of them are really outside shooters. The wing should be a strength, a disappointment even with Hill showing more than expected. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 16, 2024 16:55:17 GMT -6
I’m most concerned about our lack of effort and communication on the floor; we were outrebounded by 14! We had 50% of the assists that ISU had. Not playing as a team not playing with great effort. Good point on rebounding, but when you miss a lot of shots, that happens more often or not.
No question about the results being poor, but I saw effort, just people in the wrong place too often.
Defense did look bad, but how much was the initial defender losing his man, how much on lack of effective help? How much was allowing ISU to get out on the break and score easily? That rebounding advantage?
The offense? My impression, suffering more from lack of shooting than anything else. I can't believe we only had 8 TO
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 16, 2024 17:16:45 GMT -6
This is a huge issue to me. Arguably our top recruit has had absolutely no impact on this team thus far. You could blame the kid and say he hasn't worked hard enough, not doing the right things, etc. But based on how this whole team is playing, I'm inclined to blame the coaching staff. They were ecstatic to get him, it's their job to coach the kid up, coax the best out of him. Four games in and this relationship already is giving me Mike Neu-Kiael Kelly vibes. I'm not so sure. He was out hurt for 6 weeks before the season started. If he's healthy, get him on the court. What are we worried about? That he'll take PT away from players who apparently can't shoot and can't defend? That we'll only be able to beat DIII teams? |
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Post by bsu1 on Nov 16, 2024 17:17:31 GMT -6
TJ Burch is an effective scorer, but hasn't bought into the team concept yet. He doesn't look for teammates, only himself. When he buys into the team concept, he could be a very good player.
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