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Post by cedarpointer on Oct 15, 2018 7:50:00 GMT -6
Can we all agree its time for him to go? I may be biased as I never liked him as the OC, to begin with, but enough is enough. Do we see Mike make a change this offseason?
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Post by rgmillikan on Oct 15, 2018 7:57:38 GMT -6
Can we all agree its time for him to go? I may be biased as I never liked him as the OC, to begin with, but enough is enough. Do we see Mike make a change this offseason? Absolutely agree. Nothing in his resume suggests he deserves a 6th season at BSU.
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Post by comet on Oct 15, 2018 8:13:17 GMT -6
We all question that, but who actually creates the offensive scheme ? Is it Lynch, Neu or a group or who I think we've been a bit more creative this year, but not much, but who's fault is all that ??
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Post by rgmillikan on Oct 15, 2018 8:18:12 GMT -6
We all question that, but who actually creates the offensive scheme ? Is it Lynch, Neu or a group or who I think we've been a bit more creative this year, but not much, but who's fault is all that ?? Even if Neu is more responsible for the scheme I've seen nothing to suggest that lynch should have even returned this year for year, and year 6 is providing an even more effective lenient leash.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 15, 2018 8:35:02 GMT -6
Neu took over play calling this year. Some better but a lot the same. Joey is still oc so I assume he puts together the initial game plan. But the point remains that the offense has generally not been good with Joey as OC.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 15, 2018 8:41:02 GMT -6
We all question that, but who actually creates the offensive scheme ? Is it Lynch, Neu or a group or who I think we've been a bit more creative this year, but not much, but who's fault is all that ?? The other questions are how effective is he recruiting, and what exactly are his strengths on the staff.
We see Offensive Coordinator and immediately go to the last unfathomable play we saw. As you say that could be him, maybe not, but it may not be the whole picture either.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 15, 2018 8:48:03 GMT -6
Neu took over play calling this year. Some better but a lot the same. Joey is still oc so I assume he puts together the initial game plan. But the point remains that the offense has generally not been good with Joey as OC. I am not jumping to the conclusion that some other OC could magically transform this crew with its current talent limitations. Youth means execution errors. Lack of depth and injury mean limitations on what is possible.
Nor am I sure how much or little he contributes in recruiting and building that initial plan. Like making sausage, we don't know everything that goes into the final result we see.
Just are disappointed in the result, but does replacing him solve the biggest problems? That is on the HC who has ultimate responsibility. Fans will argue about it and if we are successful will probably not credit that he ignored the cries to fire coaches. I remember a lot of flak directed at our DC and now we are recognizing that unit as a relative success story. Right now anyway...
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Joey Lynch
Oct 15, 2018 10:13:24 GMT -6
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Post by cardrock on Oct 15, 2018 10:13:24 GMT -6
From my point of view one major issue is there’s no offensive identity. Suppose to be a running attack however injuries to the OL have dampened that and perhaps the passing game as well. I found myself Saturday wondering what the go to strengths are for a final - get the win drive. Couldn’t come up with anything. Had to sit there and bite the nails. I haven’t heard, but has/do any of the coaches talk pregame of the scripted plays the plan for opening drive? Some of what we’re discussing is from the film studies. Wonder how well versed the staff & individuals are at that phase of pregame.
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Post by bsu0 on Oct 15, 2018 11:05:04 GMT -6
I seem to remember that someone in the know mentioning years ago that the Lynch name carried a lot of weight with the high school coaches instate. If that is the case then I say keep him. Neu needs someone to study film and give an outline of suggested offensive calls. If Joey can fill that role and be happy I think he is an asset. I realize that many want different play calling but the last two seasons we have been hampered by injuries in the o-line. To really carve out an identity on the offense we have to a line that will stay healthy.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 15, 2018 11:10:47 GMT -6
From my point of view one major issue is there’s no offensive identity. Suppose to be a running attack however injuries to the OL have dampened that and perhaps the passing game as well. I found myself Saturday wondering what the go to strengths are for a final - get the win drive. Couldn’t come up with anything. Had to sit there and bite the nails. I haven’t heard, but has/do any of the coaches talk pregame of the scripted plays the plan for opening drive? Some of what we’re discussing is from the film studies. Wonder how well versed the staff & individuals are at that phase of pregame. Yes! We are all over the map offensively. Break a couple runs and we feel we gotta throw it 3 times. Or Riley gets in a grove and we gotta go away from that. And the red zone play calls. Oy! What are we doin?
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Post by DickHunsaker on Oct 15, 2018 12:07:39 GMT -6
I haven't had the opportunity to watch too many games this year. Do we still line up on every first down and try to run up the middle for a gain of 1 yd?
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Post by cardfan on Oct 15, 2018 12:45:30 GMT -6
I haven't had the opportunity to watch too many games this year. Do we still line up on every first down and try to run up the middle for a gain of 1 yd? Most of the time, yes. But we have gone deep in first down a couple times this year.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 15, 2018 12:54:16 GMT -6
I haven't had the opportunity to watch too many games this year. Do we still line up on every first down and try to run up the middle for a gain of 1 yd? You mean to say you wouldn't move heaven and earth to clear your schedule to watch that?
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Joey Lynch
Oct 15, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 15, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -6
He has proven to be a very good in state recruiter. The problem with that is after the bigvten takes most of talent there is not mutch left in indiana
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 15, 2018 16:18:15 GMT -6
Well, Neu isn't going to fire him. He's just not. The family ties are too strong.
Besides, if he were going to fire him it would have been after last season. At that point, Neu clearly recognized that Joey was an issue despite the numerous injuries. Think about that: Despite the massive injuries we had last year, which Neu clearly could have used as justification for our offensive crapfest, it was still obvious to him that Joey was an issue.
But instead of firing him, he did the good-guy, family friend thing - moved Joey laterally, removed part of his responsibilities, allowed him to keep his title and shouldered more responsibility himself.
The problem now becomes that maybe Neu ain't such as great play caller himself, but since he's committed to the Lynch family he can't actually go out and hire someone to do the job properly.
We'll live or die with what we got.
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