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Post by sweep on Mar 4, 2019 11:52:18 GMT -6
Bill Scholl hired Whitford. Sandy wasn’t here at the time. Scholl left before Whit coached his second season. I never wanted Neubauer. Davenport at Bellarmine is who interested me the most. But who knows how far Into the precess those guys got. Yep my bad, I must have a mental block when it comes to how long Whitford has been here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 11:56:09 GMT -6
Davenport has a son who is at EKU. Looks like he has a good pedigree. Bring him in next year as “a coach in waiting”.
Heck, bring both of them with a succession plan.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Mar 4, 2019 12:21:40 GMT -6
What I am taking away from this thread is that we almost had a Neu and a Neubauer at the same time.
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Post by zonebuster on Mar 4, 2019 18:56:18 GMT -6
Wasn’t there a lower level championship coach from the Louisville area who wanted the job when Whitford was hired? He actually sounded good back then but didn’t have the “pedigree.” All he could offer was championship coaching experience. Yes, Scotty Davenport of Bellarmine U. was one of 4-5 candidates that were brought to Muncie for interviews. His age likely worked against him. He can flat out coach and his teams are so much fun to watch. Two simple concepts on offense.....ball movement & player movement. He coached at legendary Ballard HS in Louisville before serving as an assistant to both Denny a rum & Rick Pitino at Louisville. We screwed up royally by not hiring him. Nobody would be complaining of complacent behavior on the sidelines or players being held accountable. Six years in I’m confident he would have had us at the top of the MAC! Bellarmine is always ranked high in D-II. Rumors are they could be going D-I soon
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Post by zonebuster on Mar 4, 2019 18:57:59 GMT -6
Davenport has a son who is at EKU. Looks like he has a good pedigree. Bring him in next year as “a coach in waiting”. Heck, bring both of them with a succession plan. Davenport’s son left EKU and is an assistant at Bellarmine.
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Post by zonebuster on Mar 5, 2019 12:24:25 GMT -6
Wasn’t there a lower level championship coach from the Louisville area who wanted the job when Whitford was hired? He actually sounded good back then but didn’t have the “pedigree.” All he could offer was championship coaching experience. Yes, Scotty Davenport of Bellarmine U. was one of 4-5 candidates that were brought to Muncie for interviews. His age likely worked against him. He can flat out coach and his teams are so much fun to watch. Two simple concepts on offense.....ball movement & player movement. He coached at legendary Ballard HS in Louisville before serving as an assistant to both Denny a rum & Rick Pitino at Louisville. We screwed up royally by not hiring him. Nobody would be complaining of complacent behavior on the sidelines or players being held accountable. Six years in I’m confident he would have had us at the top of the MAC! Bellarmine is always ranked high in D-II. Rumors are they could be going D-I soon Great article on the Bellarmine program from earlier this year. www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentuckiana/2019/01/09/how-bellarmine-basketball-scott-davenport-became-powerhouse-program-louisville/2452970002/
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 5, 2019 12:54:27 GMT -6
Ok I am mpt a numbers guy nor have I ever negotiated a contract but could something like this work. We offer the next guy a three year contract with clauses written that if you meet these expectations after year 2 you will be extended with an xxxxxx amount raise. New contract extension same thing after two extended if these expectations are made at xxxxx amount.. Buyout would be at least the amount owed on contract
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 8, 2019 15:19:07 GMT -6
Why would anyone take 3?
Every other job will be 5.
But wait, maybe we pay REALLY well. Odds on that?
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 8, 2019 16:05:23 GMT -6
Just fire the SOB and be done with it. Hire a NAIA coach that actually coaches(see prior posts) and hire a young recruiter with four years under his belt and let's attract some kids in here that can shoot, defend and play unselfish basketball.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 8, 2019 17:36:56 GMT -6
Why would anyone take 3? Every other job will be 5. But wait, maybe we pay REALLY well. Odds on that? As ever, your mind is simply not capable of thinking in any terms other than the most standard, popular, typical pool of coaching candidates. If you limit yourself to that pool, then yes, they will be offered 5 years by somebody else, and yes, you will have to out-bid the competition. On the other hand if you expand your pool, you may well find plenty dying to try out their ideas for three years, and very confident that they will EARN additional years. But you've dug your heels in, and we have seen the sort of idiocy THAT makes you capable of.
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 8, 2019 20:22:47 GMT -6
Why would anyone take 3? Every other job will be 5. But wait, maybe we pay REALLY well. Odds on that? As ever, your mind is simply not capable of thinking in any terms other than the most standard, popular, typical pool of coaching candidates. If you limit yourself to that pool, then yes, they will be offered 5 years by somebody else, and yes, you will have to out-bid the competition. On the other hand if you expand your pool, you may well find plenty dying to try out their ideas for three years, and very confident that they will EARN additional years. But you've dug your heels in, and we have seen the sort of idiocy THAT makes you capable of. Did you expect any different?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 8, 2019 20:49:34 GMT -6
My thing is we are taking unproven coaches anyway.. Why not take a stab at a really unproven aggressive young guy with something prove. Who cares if he has been a lower level head coach or came from a big program or has a fancy last name. This has notworked for what 15 years now.. My way we get to at least try 4 maybe 5 coaches in that same time frame.. More chances to hit a home run.. Likely costs us less and we do not get stuck with lame ducks for multiple years
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Post by cardfan on Mar 8, 2019 20:56:09 GMT -6
I’d take a serious look at Tonagel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 22:04:52 GMT -6
You know....as I was watching the game tonight. I couldn't even imagine what Hunsaker would do with these guys during a timeout. And, with a crowd this size, you'd be able to hear EVERY word.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 9, 2019 9:55:02 GMT -6
rm look at three posts above you^. Great minds think alike. A major flaw in hiring coaches is that many ADs hire cheer leaders not COACHES. In other words, TEACHERS that explain in simple terms what has to be done to defend (ie fighting through a screen, etc), taking HIGH PERCENTAGE shots (not throwing up threes willy nilly), and other basics many coaches either ignore or DON'T KNOW. Many of these athletes only know dunks and three pointers. They are in dire need of a true coach. I really feel we could find an enthusiastic TEACHER/ COACH that could meet our needs in the small college ranks. We do not need another big school assistant. These kids wouldn't have known Whit when he was named if he bit them on the ass. So we hire a small college coach. How fun would it be to see a young staff REAALY teaching young hungry players how to play a team game? A staff that would go to where the students live and gather to have live radio programs and have real interaction with the students to attract them to the games. To me coach is almost a sacred word. It means a mentor, a teacher, a counsel, an adult that sets parameters, sets goals , and keeps you on a path to meet those goals. We need a Coach. Kids want a real Coach. Many have NEVER had a father. Wouldn't it be great to have that kind of a person added to the Athletic Department to head our basketball program?
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