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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 14:46:41 GMT -6
How do we gat an 11 page thread from a bankrupt athletic department sending a team on a Central American boondoggle via a Go Fund Me page to play 3 games that provided no more competition than renting a church van to travel to the nearest city park?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 14:51:39 GMT -6
Would someone remind me again why we redshirted Huggins and Coleman if they are guys we are going to recruit over every year. Coleman will be worth a scholarship.
Huggins was and apparently still is more a project big man. I certainly have no problem with adding Hendricks who appears to have a bit more promise, and I don't understand your problem with something most MAC schools routinely do, recruit and develop project big guys. And if anything we have not maybe done enough of that.
Surely having 2 centers on board is not too many.
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Post by CallingBS on Aug 5, 2019 15:23:16 GMT -6
It’s okay while I’m largely positive I did note some areas where we’ll need to improve namely ball handling or reducing turnovers. I’m also a bit concerned if we can score adequately from the PG position. I’m also concerned if we can out rebound most teams...we can if we play with a high motor which includes Teague! He must bring it every night for our team to play to its potential. The key will be some of our rotations where I believe we will go 10 deep. My forced ranking is: 1. Teague 2. Hazen 3. Mallers 4. Walton 5. Josh 6. Ish 7. Thomas 8. Hendricks 9. Bumbalough 10. Kroft 11. Gunn 12. Acree 13. Huggins Acree has talent but hasn’t played a lot after the ACL injury last year; I’d probably Red Shirt him. The biggest disappointment I see in Kid's ranking is Gunn! Wow, he' now going to be a junior and this is the level he as ascended to? I was really hoping, wishing that reality would set in with him and he would realize he's not "all there is and then some" and work at becoming a better all around player rather than just a mediocre, at best, 3 point shooter and contribute at a higher level. If Kid's rankings are anywhere close to being accurate then I consider this a wasted scholarship. And least we forget that Whitford himself said that Acree was the best recruit he's ever had on campus. Further, if Hazen and Mallers are our second and third best players, damn...............
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Post by lmills72 on Aug 5, 2019 17:37:18 GMT -6
And Kid himself said Acree may be one of Whit's best ever recruits ... but still ranks him below all three of the true freshmen this year, not to mention suggesting that he'd redshirt him if he could. Seems to be low praise for one of Whit's best ever.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 18:05:46 GMT -6
This thread reduced to interpreting the gospel of kid and its often opaque prophecies.
In the end it is reduced to a matter of faith and hope that leads to devine intervention and salvation.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 5, 2019 18:27:14 GMT -6
Indeed. In a low information situation, the shakiest accounts are seized upon....even the madcap ramblings of the Kid.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 18:44:53 GMT -6
madcap perhaps.
But often his scrying has proved itself.
A great mystery that has at least occupied and amused us this day and in the past when as you say we apparently have nothing better.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 5, 2019 18:54:07 GMT -6
I said it before and I will say it again we need one of the newcomers to be a budding star. If we are counting on kids from last years squad to make us any better the low to middling we are fucked
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 19:10:03 GMT -6
madcap perhaps. But often his scrying has proved itself. There’s at least a bit of solace in knowing we can feel right at home when frequenting the next road trip to Kent State
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 19:21:37 GMT -6
I said it before and I will say it again we need one of the newcomers to be a budding star. If we are counting on kids from last years squad to make us any better the low to middling we are fucked I am optimist enough that if one of the newcomers did really take off, something like what Trey did his freshman year, it would be huge. You are right about that.
But, the returning players have to be part of any major improvement, probably at least as much of it.
We suffered through too many games last year when those kids from last year who return, really played below their potential. Mallers shooting leads the list for me, Hazen and Ish on the bench too much, Gunn forced into the game for stretches where he could not hit, or was not a good match up and could not defend his man. Josh too, sometimes unwilling or unable to take a shot.
And let's not forget Teague and KJ disappearing. Big talent. If instead they were more often dialed in either one, that alone is a big plus. If more consistent, wow... All just from returning players.
Eliminate any substantial part of that dysfunction. Then what we need is to have some decent bench players added in, we suddenly don't have to live with the bad games we may see from them. We improve.
Give me numbers. More athletes. Just a little shooting off the bench. A big man who can come in... Then something less than a new star may be enough for a really good year. And then those freshmen can wait and become budding stars late in the year, or even the next year.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 19:22:25 GMT -6
madcap perhaps. But often his scrying has proved itself. There’s at least a bit of solace in knowing we can feel right at home when frequenting the next road trip to Kent State That's the spirit.
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 5, 2019 19:46:12 GMT -6
RM, if we have a newcomer that rises to the top this year it will be Thomas in my view. Luke and Hendricks could do some damage to.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 20:22:25 GMT -6
RM, if we have a newcomer that rises to the top this year it will be Thomas in my view. Luke and Hendricks could do some damage to. I'll be a bit of a contrarian and say they don't have to become stars, or rise to the top. Just become solid college players in that first year.
Score reliably if not spectacularly, not be a defensive liability. Play good team ball. Be capable of more than that on occasion and sometimes in big games especially. 3 of 5 newcomers do that, we'll be significantly improved over last year.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 5, 2019 20:28:14 GMT -6
I said it before and I will say it again we need one of the newcomers to be a budding star. If we are counting on kids from last years squad to make us any better the low to middling we are fucked I am optimist enough that if one of the newcomers did really take off, something like what Trey did his freshman year, it would be huge. You are right about that.
But, the returning players have to be part of any major improvement, probably at least as much of it.
We suffered through too many games last year when those kids from last year who return, really played below their potential. Mallers shooting leads the list for me, Hazen and Ish on the bench too much, Gunn forced into the game for stretches where he could not hit, or was not a good match up and could not defend his man. Josh too, sometimes unwilling or unable to take a shot.
And let's not forget Teague and KJ disappearing. Big talent. If instead they were more often dialed in either one, that alone is a big plus. If more consistent, wow... All just from returning players.
Eliminate any substantial part of that dysfunction. Then what we need is to have some decent bench players added in, we suddenly don't have to live with the bad games we may see from them. We improve.
Give me numbers. More athletes. Just a little shooting off the bench. A big man who can come in... Then something less than a new star may be enough for a really good year. And then those freshmen can wait and become budding stars late in the year, or even the next year.
Ish is the only player young enough to improve enough to make us substantially better. The other guys we know what they are they are not becoming stars. Teague could but does anyone really expect him too.. Sure they can all play better than they did but is their a bit better enough to get us out of the middle of the pack?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2019 20:48:26 GMT -6
Getting out of the middle of the pack, let's think about that a minute. Should mean a decent seed in the MAC.
A good seed and good depth in a 3 day, 3 game setting is a fighting chance for that 15 seed in the NCAA tournament. And depth makes a late season collapse a lot less likely. Despite the curse.
I know. That's not the thrill we want, not the dream. But...it's not nightmares alternating with sleepless nights either.
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