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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 12:52:08 GMT -6
Projections out from ESPN, CBS, and Fox have eight (8) MAC teams going bowling as of this week: Akron (6-5) Bowling Green (8-3) Buffalo (5-6) Central Michigan (6-5) Northern Illinois (8-3) Ohio (7-4) Toledo (9-1) Western Michigan (6-5) CBSESPN
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Sun Belt looks like it is giving up slots due to losing records, C-USA is also underachieving.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 5:44:10 GMT -6
Looks like 7 of the 8 teams previously mentioned will be bowling. Buffalo's loss last week dropped them below the 6 win requirement, so they are out.
Sun Belt and Conference USA underachieved (both pretty much sucked), lost bowl slots, and gave the MAC an extra boost. Mountain West was not much better.
Of the non-power 5 conferences, the American Athletic and MAC were tops.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 6:29:57 GMT -6
Buffalo is 5-7, how do they qualify to go to a bowl?
With this exciting bowl lineup, I'm not sure I'll be able to dislodge myself from in front of the television for a month.........
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2015 7:07:18 GMT -6
There aren't enough teams to fill the bowls. (and we still weren't nearly good enough to come close to a bowl)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 7:27:18 GMT -6
Buffalo is 5-7, how do they qualify to go to a bowl? Read second message...
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Post by bsu65 on Dec 2, 2015 7:31:33 GMT -6
I could be wrong but I heard there is not enough teams with 6 wins so a few bowls will have a team with only 5 wins. I think they said about 3 teams will only have 5 wins.
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Post by bsu65 on Dec 2, 2015 7:36:32 GMT -6
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Post by bsu0 on Dec 2, 2015 7:52:16 GMT -6
Bowl games with teams sporting 5,6,7wins....WHAT A JOKE...No one will watch these laughers. Indiana is ''bowl eligible'' with two conference wins. How pathetic. I was somewhat relieved when we were not picked for a bowl when we won six a few years ago. In a conversation with my brother (an IU grad) at the time I said I was relieved we did not go. Bowl games are so plentiful now it is almost like receiving a ''participation trophy''. I can remember a time when being named to a bowl game was a reward for a good season...not in this day and age. I know all the so called reasons to be picked, extra practice time, etc. Sorry guys I still think it is bogus.
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Post by bsu65 on Dec 2, 2015 7:53:31 GMT -6
Bowl games with teams sporting 5,6,7wins....WHAT A JOKE...No one will watch these laughers. Indiana is ''bowl eligible'' with two conference wins. How pathetic. I was somewhat relieved when we were not picked for a bowl when we won six a few years ago. In a conversation with my brother (an IU grad) at the time I said I was relieved we did not go. Bowl games are so plentiful now it is almost like receiving a ''participation trophy''. I can remember a time when being named to a bowl game was a reward for a good season...not in this day and age. I know all the so called reasons to be picked, extra practice time, etc. Sorry guys I still think it is bogus. I agree!! The Idaho bowl always bothered me, why would I want to pay over $800 for a airline ticket to fly to Idaho. They need to cut some bowls.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2015 9:42:16 GMT -6
Definitely need to cut some bowls. It's no longer a true reward and In too many cases almost seem the opposite of reward. Bowls mean very little anymore. (Pete doesn't seem to take advantage of it when we do go, anyway)
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 3, 2015 7:22:58 GMT -6
It is depressing almost to see college football tradition die, more games don't make it greater.
Most bowl games are a meaningless extension of the season.
But of course, most regular season games in D1 don't mean anything anymore, either...fan interest in the regular season for most games is a huge problem for half or more the schools who play football. Rivalry game are much less a big thing. The Old Oaken Bucket, who cares? We love it when we have a good team and play for a championship, but by its dreary for half the teams that aren't in the running. The tradition of the big football Saturday on campus used to sustain the sport, but now exists at a relatively few of the big schools. It's not just Ball State where sometimes the big game, even with a tailgate, is like a small family affair.
Big TV contracts support the sport, but hurt local attendance even for mid majors. Let's watch Ohio State Michigan, not go to the stadium in Muncie, say many. Of course only a few of your games get any real audience on TV if you are not a major conference school. MAC games show empty seats on week nights. Saturday everyone watches the big network games. Even most big schools get maybe one chance in a couple of years to play on national TV where it matters.
The bowl games are now filler holiday material for weeks, a kind of extension of relatively meaningless seasons for about half those games at least. What's worse is the schools lose money, the teams miss classes practicing for weeks extra.
Sure, the school gets some publicity and the fans have some fun, spend money and have an excuse to travel to warm climate, that's good. But. To Idaho? Even to Birmingham? Is it worth it?
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Post by bsu0 on Dec 3, 2015 9:15:10 GMT -6
Why so many bowl games? ESPN needs programming during December.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 9:17:27 GMT -6
Why so many bowl games? ESPN needs programming during December. Yes. And ticket and participation fees.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 3, 2015 10:30:38 GMT -6
Why so many bowl games? ESPN needs programming during December. Yes. And ticket and participation fees. We don't make very much by extra ticket revenue, not much profit, if any. The Student fees are the same whether we bowl or not, but the revenue for us from MAC TV and bowl games is probably more profit if we don't go at all. That still makes it a farce. Lose money all year on football to lose a little more. If we go and win, that's good publicity, maybe just a good game even a loss is considered good, helps with recruiting for example. Still it is expensive in terms of money and student time, and you gotta wonder if it is worth it. On principle the problem is this is more an more just business not sports, not serving our fans and students very much, just paying bills which may just be bills that come from a whole season where we work hard, overpay in many cases to be D1, and the "reward" comes down to be the "opportunity" to serve ESPN programming needs.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 3, 2015 10:40:58 GMT -6
There aren't enough teams to fill the bowls. (and we still weren't nearly good enough to come close to a bowl) If the best 3 or 4 MAC teams got good match up games with good teams in high visibility games everybody would like that. Except the bowl committee. What happens instead is we get a game with IU (or some other power conference low life) in a meaningless bowl because IU will send lots of fans and alums anywhere in the country for an IU party opportunity. Money in the bank for the Committee. The bowl games relay pretty heavily on fans as well as the TV audience. I am surprised some of the games even exist, but organizers sell to the local business community and have to deliver fans, which means not picking the best teams but the best cash cows. Hard for the MAC to get a good deal. No large loyal fan base that will travel. And every time we end up subsidizing the bowl committee with ticket guarantee and buying tickets nobody wants.
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