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Post by cardfan on Oct 22, 2019 19:19:14 GMT -6
I’m still a little foggy about this sudden acquisition of basketball depth that I’m reading on here. I’d swear that last year was going to be the culmination of digging ourselves out of that terrible Taylor abyss. I went back to posts of October ‘18 and read the praises of our “significant depth” that we finally possessed. Now I am reading that it is THIS year y’all had been talking about all along...... You're confusing "this year" and "next year". Try to stay with me here. You see, in October 2018, last year was still next year since no games had been played yet. We will ALWAYS have depth next year. It's only this year that depth is a problem and an excuse for the losing that's going on. Right now, this year is still technically next year....so we have plenty of depth this year (i.e. "next year"). In a couple months, this year will be just this year and it will be pointed out by those in the know that, sure, depth is a problem this year, but next year (i.e. 2020-21) we will have tons of depth. But then when 2020-21 actually rolls around and becomes this year...…. Got it? It’s brilliant because next year is always better than last year, no matter what, and since next year never comes it’s always great to look forward to.
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Post by CallingBS on Oct 22, 2019 19:20:43 GMT -6
Let me add this for Sherm's sake...I think metrics are what made Whit valuable at some of his other stops, particularly Arizona. I have no doubt that he was not the big recruiter at AZ. Then again, Sherm is probably right, Nike was likely doing the bulk of Arizona's recruiting...
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Post by sweep on Oct 23, 2019 4:02:18 GMT -6
1) I don't believe Whitford knows more about analytics or metrics than an other coach, I think he is a dimwitted guy who likes to project an intelligence he doesn't possess. 2) This team plays "listlessly" because that's the way they practice, I'll bet Whitford had never once thrown a guy out for just going through the motions or not paying attention. It's part of the reason we are consistently in the bottom 10% in turnovers. You know I generally agree with you on Whit, but I do think he is a good metrics guy. The problem is, one-dimensional coaching is never good, but lifeless numbers-based coaching as the foundation of your program is especially bad. I personally think our players are bored to death and/ or too busy thinking to just be athletic and react to situations. Think about how stymied we are by the changes from other coaches or just how rare it is for us to come up with a 50/50 ball. Whit's system requires thinking over instinct, and I don't think that's a good thing. Thinking should be for practice, while instinct and athleticism must take over in games. If Whitford is a metrics guy why does Teague have a green light on threes ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 4:53:50 GMT -6
You know I generally agree with you on Whit, but I do think he is a good metrics guy. If Whitford is a metrics guy why does Teague have a green light on threes ? 🤔 Why....does Teague......have a green light.....on threes? 🤔 Brilliant!
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Post by cardfan on Oct 23, 2019 6:12:04 GMT -6
You know I generally agree with you on Whit, but I do think he is a good metrics guy. The problem is, one-dimensional coaching is never good, but lifeless numbers-based coaching as the foundation of your program is especially bad. I personally think our players are bored to death and/ or too busy thinking to just be athletic and react to situations. Think about how stymied we are by the changes from other coaches or just how rare it is for us to come up with a 50/50 ball. Whit's system requires thinking over instinct, and I don't think that's a good thing. Thinking should be for practice, while instinct and athleticism must take over in games. If Whitford is a metrics guy why does Teague have a green light on threes ? That experiment failed, obviously. how much of it was Teague doing his own thing vs having a green light?
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Post by sweep on Oct 23, 2019 7:00:05 GMT -6
If Whitford is a metrics guy why does Teague have a green light on threes ? That experiment failed, obviously. how much of it was Teague doing his own thing vs having a green light? If Teague was doing his own thing he would have been immediately benched.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 23, 2019 8:09:39 GMT -6
That experiment failed, obviously. how much of it was Teague doing his own thing vs having a green light? If Teague was doing his own thing he would have been immediately benched. That assumes whit would sit him.
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Post by sweep on Oct 23, 2019 8:24:50 GMT -6
If Teague was doing his own thing he would have been immediately benched. That assumes whit would sit him. He did the same exact thing during the waning games the prior year. It's just bad coaching. This does however bring up another point, if Whitford is a metrics whore why is our roster so imbalanced ?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 23, 2019 10:16:53 GMT -6
I've always hated the metrics system.
Damn Europeans.
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Post by williamtsherman on Oct 28, 2019 21:03:55 GMT -6
Well, we can see how the KenPom ratings develop over the season. But, as usual, the KenPorn ratings are dominated by Longwood, with Morehead, Ball State and Oral Roberts rounding out the top 4.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 29, 2019 8:36:13 GMT -6
Well, we can see how the KenPom ratings develop over the season. But, as usual, the KenPorn ratings are dominated by Longwood, with Morehead, Ball State and Oral Roberts rounding out the top 4. The Rhode Island School of Design may want to go to D1, on the strength of its mascot alone. Scrotie
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Post by swenocha on Oct 29, 2019 14:21:32 GMT -6
You're confusing "this year" and "next year". Try to stay with me here. You see, in October 2018, last year was still next year since no games had been played yet. We will ALWAYS have depth next year. It's only this year that depth is a problem and an excuse for the losing that's going on. Right now, this year is still technically next year....so we have plenty of depth this year (i.e. "next year"). In a couple months, this year will be just this year and it will be pointed out by those in the know that, sure, depth is a problem this year, but next year (i.e. 2020-21) we will have tons of depth. But then when 2020-21 actually rolls around and becomes this year...…. Got it? It’s brilliant because next year is always better than last year, no matter what, and since next year never comes it’s always great to look forward to.
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Post by rgmillikan on Oct 31, 2019 16:12:36 GMT -6
Im thinking they'll be 9-9 in MAC, maybe get to the MAC quarters and finish around 145 nationally. Its hard to be optimistic after that post Toledo win collapse that lasted for 2 months.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 31, 2019 16:15:29 GMT -6
Voted 3rd in the West division. Teague the only player considered ALL MAC level. Solidly middlish of the pack again....
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Post by thebsukid on Oct 31, 2019 17:41:58 GMT -6
We will see....
This team is more talented than middle of the pack!
This team will 🕺dance
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