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Post by bsutony on Oct 28, 2019 21:10:59 GMT -6
I predict a competitive loss. I also predicted close losses to NIU and Toledo, so I hope I’m wrong again.
I think this is a better matchup for us than the Ohio game, even though Western might be better overall. Wassink is a good passer, but doesn’t pose much of a threat on the ground. Our pass defense has been surprisingly good so far. If we can get a few turnovers and play aggressive on offense I think we could pull off the upset.
The status of Huntley makes a huge difference though.
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Post by david75bsu on Oct 29, 2019 5:19:30 GMT -6
Just like I said preseason, win 24-17. Period. I could not have said it better. Period!
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Post by frozenbaugh on Oct 29, 2019 6:15:04 GMT -6
I agree, they know a win may get them to the championship game. Of course so do we. Keep it close and see what happens. We have an easier route than they do. They still have @niu and @ohio which I think they lose both. I do not think we get rolled but do not think it will be competitive. Like 10-14 points where we're kinda there and kinda not.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 29, 2019 6:29:43 GMT -6
I’m going 44-24.
Maybe we have a chance if Plitt has a really good day. But Bellamy has been putting up huge numbers.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 29, 2019 6:52:16 GMT -6
I agree, they know a win may get them to the championship game. Of course so do we. Keep it close and see what happens. We have an easier route than they do. They still have @niu and @ohio which I think they lose both. I do not think we get rolled but do not think it will be competitive. Like 10-14 points where we're kinda there and kinda not. I could see that. No meltdown, but just not enough horsepower if they play well. Not sure why you say they should lose both niu and ou. It's a crazy conference this year, could happen, but don't agree they have tougher route. And if they beat us, they hold tiebreaker I assume.
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Post by universityjim on Oct 29, 2019 6:59:38 GMT -6
Against Ohio I felt the defensive game plan was pathetic and the offense went too conservative due to the weather. We were not the agressor in that game and we won't win games with that kind of attitude by the coaches. We slipped back to having the mentality of a loser. Hopefully it was a momentary lapse.
We can beat any team in the MAC home or away. We can also lose to any team in the MAC.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 29, 2019 7:00:44 GMT -6
Wmu has more firepower than those teams and us. Becomes a matter of can their D get enough stops.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 29, 2019 7:09:54 GMT -6
Against Ohio I felt the defensive game plan was pathetic and the offense went too conservative due to the weather. We were not the agressor in that game and we won't win games with that kind of attitude by the coaches. We slipped back to having the mentality of a loser. Hopefully it was a momentary lapse. We can beat any team in the MAC home or away. We can also lose to any team in the MAC. Yessir. Elson evidently doesn’t know how to game plan for the option and our players had no clue how to defend it properly. We just let guys run free. Big step back by the defense. Need to be very assignment sharp vs Wmu. The inconsistency of this team is frustrating.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Oct 29, 2019 8:06:59 GMT -6
We have an easier route than they do. They still have @niu and @ohio which I think they lose both. I do not think we get rolled but do not think it will be competitive. Like 10-14 points where we're kinda there and kinda not. I could see that. No meltdown, but just not enough horsepower if they play well. Not sure why you say they should lose both niu and ou. It's a crazy conference this year, could happen, but don't agree they have tougher route. And if they beat us, they hold tiebreaker I assume. Well, WMU is 5-0 at home and 0-4 on the road. After the BSU game, they have their final games on the road while Ball State has 2 of 3 at home. You're saying 2 must-win road games against pretty good opponents is easier (when they haven't won a road game yet) than having 2 of 3 at home? The only positive I can see is they have one less game.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 29, 2019 8:20:20 GMT -6
Oh what a difference one game makes... We were going streaking and now the wangon is stuck in the mud.. Current polling says WMU 13-3 with 7 other just scratching their head
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Post by cardfan on Oct 29, 2019 8:54:08 GMT -6
As we’ve known, we can’t beat a good team that plays well without playing relatively mistake free and having the offense attacking. We just aren’t good enough to be sloppy and sit back on our heels and still have a chance to win. So reverting back to that type of play be OU was a punch in the gut.
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Post by david75bsu on Oct 29, 2019 9:05:56 GMT -6
Against Ohio I felt the defensive game plan was pathetic and the offense went too conservative due to the weather. We were not the agressor in that game and we won't win games with that kind of attitude by the coaches. We slipped back to having the mentality of a loser. Hopefully it was a momentary lapse. We can beat any team in the MAC home or away. We can also lose to any team in the MAC. Agree totally with this comment. The old, conservative team that played not to lose was on show this past Saturday - the reason we have lost so many under Neu! Need to be the aggressor. Play to win. Play Dave McClain style - pull out all the plays. Damn fun to watch. Would rather lose being the aggressor. We have some great talent now, put it on display for all to see. Have fun and the players and fans will also have fun, go Cards, beat the Broncos!
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Post by mattg on Oct 29, 2019 9:17:27 GMT -6
What if we beat them again with a goal line stop at the end of the game? WMU might want Lester fired on the spot of that occurs.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 29, 2019 9:19:04 GMT -6
I could see that. No meltdown, but just not enough horsepower if they play well. Not sure why you say they should lose both niu and ou. It's a crazy conference this year, could happen, but don't agree they have tougher route. And if they beat us, they hold tiebreaker I assume. Well, WMU is 5-0 at home and 0-4 on the road. After the BSU game, they have their final games on the road while Ball State has 2 of 3 at home. You're saying 2 must-win road games against pretty good opponents is easier (when they haven't won a road game yet) than having 2 of 3 at home? The only positive I can see is they have one less game. Both teams have a potentially hard schedule. That much is true. Ours is no easier.
The key is the head to head game at their place. If we win, we clearly are in the drivers seat.
BUT. If we lose that one, we are a game behind in the win column and they have the tie breaker. I sure don't see it as easier for us to win all 3 than for them to win 2.
We can win 2 of 3 games to reach 5-3. That may be 50-50, maybe a little better. They then need only 1 win in 2 games to reach 5-3. Ohio is a tough out with a lot to play for, I agree. NIU? They have a good chance in both, favorites I bet at NIU.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 29, 2019 10:01:47 GMT -6
I can’t help but remember Neu’s first season when we had 4 wins and everyone is talking bowl and we proceeded to find every way we could to lose out the rest of the way. We will see a repeat? Will mike start being more conservative and butt clench?
Dark days that was
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