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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 4, 2019 16:38:04 GMT -6
Even if that starting 5 sticks throughout the season, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hazen or Thomas log more minutes per game than Thompson anyway. I’m not terribly concerned with the initial lineup being whack. I don't know I could see Thompson playing more minutes than anyone other than Teague. I also don't think Ish is an answer at two guard, he was only slightly better than Gunn from three last season ( .368 vs .358) and he doesn't shoot unless he is wide open. I could be way wrong but I think Ish is going to be pretty good this year
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Post by mattg on Nov 4, 2019 16:46:33 GMT -6
Even if that starting 5 sticks throughout the season, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hazen or Thomas log more minutes per game than Thompson anyway. I’m not terribly concerned with the initial lineup being whack. I don't know I could see Thompson playing more minutes than anyone other than Teague. I also don't think Ish is an answer at two guard, he was only slightly better than Gunn from three last season ( .368 vs .358) and he doesn't shoot unless he is wide open. Do you say that based upon Josh’s position he plays? Or his experience playing? If we are trying to be more defensive-minded I agree with you.
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Post by sweep on Nov 4, 2019 16:49:08 GMT -6
I don't know I could see Thompson playing more minutes than anyone other than Teague. I also don't think Ish is an answer at two guard, he was only slightly better than Gunn from three last season ( .368 vs .358) and he doesn't shoot unless he is wide open. I could be way wrong but I think Ish is going to be pretty good this year Maybe, but I don't see it. If someone puts a 6'4"- 6"5' two guard on him he won't be able to score.
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Post by sweep on Nov 4, 2019 16:53:59 GMT -6
I don't know I could see Thompson playing more minutes than anyone other than Teague. I also don't think Ish is an answer at two guard, he was only slightly better than Gunn from three last season ( .368 vs .358) and he doesn't shoot unless he is wide open. Do you say that based upon Josh’s position he plays? Or his experience playing? If we are trying to be more defensive-minded I agree with you. Position and the fact he hardly ever turns the ball over, he only averaged two turnovers per forty minutes played last season which is really good for a point guard. I just don't see anyone else who can handle the point.
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 4, 2019 17:22:14 GMT -6
Do you say that based upon Josh’s position he plays? Or his experience playing? If we are trying to be more defensive-minded I agree with you. Position and the fact he hardly ever turns the ball over, he only averaged two turnovers per forty minutes played last season which is really good for a point guard. I just don't see anyone else who can handle the point. Unfortunately I agree with this. Downside is he can't score which means whoever is guarding him will be available to double team someone else whenever Thompson is on the floor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 17:35:36 GMT -6
Bsu web site. I wouldn’t put too much stock in who starts vs defiance. Everyone will get minutes. Those 5 must have been practicing the best and some guys might be dinged up. Doubt that is who starts when it really counts. Is this a real game or an exhibition? For crying out loud, Defiance is even lower than Whit’s normally low competitive standards. We only need less than half our fires 🔥 clicking for a game like this.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 4, 2019 17:54:58 GMT -6
Someone will play well tomorrow night and they will be crowned the next great thing... Mark me words
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 4, 2019 17:57:43 GMT -6
Position and the fact he hardly ever turns the ball over, he only averaged two turnovers per forty minutes played last season which is really good for a point guard. I just don't see anyone else who can handle the point. Unfortunately I agree with this. Downside is he can't score which means whoever is guarding him will be available to double team someone else whenever Thompson is on the floor. That doesn't track. If they leave him with ball in hands, he can shoot well enough. You have to guard the ball if somebody can dribble and hit open shots.
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 4, 2019 18:56:42 GMT -6
Unfortunately I agree with this. Downside is he can't score which means whoever is guarding him will be available to double team someone else whenever Thompson is on the floor. That doesn't track. If they leave him with ball in hands, he can shoot well enough. You have to guard the ball if somebody can dribble and hit open shots. Doesn't track? He's too small to take the ball to the basket against teams with decent size. A decent 3-point shot could compensate for that, but last year he only shot the three at 31.7% (13-41) which was slightly better than his 30.8% in the previous year. You really want your 3-point shooters in the upper 30's. Austin Nehls was 40% last year (18-45). More importantly, Thompson doesn't look comfortable shooting. It's as through he realizes his limitations. 54% of his shots last year (41-76) were 3-point attempts. Like he realizes he can't drive to the hoop, so his best chance is to hoist-up a 3-pointer where his chances are only 31.7% for success.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 4, 2019 19:19:12 GMT -6
Your theory where they don't guard him, he'd hit high 30's. His main job is to control the ball and play good D.
A guy with the ball you can only back away if he shoots like KJ...
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Post by comet on Nov 4, 2019 19:43:02 GMT -6
Since this doesn't appear an exhibition game, but the real thing, what are the redshirt rules in basketball, barring injuries If a player makes any kind of appearance, does he lose his ability to redshirt ??
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 4, 2019 19:56:53 GMT -6
That starting line up may not be the permanent starting line up, but it is bad news as far as it goes. You always, always, ALWAYS, want to see newcomers taking starting positions from holdovers, whatever state your program might be in, because the holdovers are known quantities, and you always want to see the talent upgraded beyond what you already knew you had.
If the newcomers really aren't any better than that starting line up, then, given the loss of Persons and Moses, the team will probably be worse than last year. That's not to say that (even given they ARE worse) they might not still have better results because last years team developed a uncannily strong knack for losing as the year went on.
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 4, 2019 20:01:06 GMT -6
Your theory where they don't guard him, he'd hit high 30's. His main job is to control the ball and play good D. A guy with the ball you can only back away if he shoots like KJ... As soon as Thompson passes the ball, his man is free to roam to double-team potential scorers. Thompson is a nice legacy story who has far exceeded expectations, it's just that if he is playing major minutes at PG this season, this team isn't going very far.
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 4, 2019 20:05:15 GMT -6
Or what it means is we had ample opportunity to recruit another PG and a center for years and did not do it. Bumbalough will someday start but he is not ready and can not defend right now Indeed. I'm like everyone in that I sort of root for walk-ons and acknowledge their accomplishment, but Thompson starting at point represents drastic, long-term recruiting failure.
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Post by sweep on Nov 4, 2019 20:24:02 GMT -6
"Your theory where they don't guard him, he'd hit high 30's."
Are you joking, he was wide open when he hit 30%.
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