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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2020 14:41:52 GMT -6
Ok because I was bored and have nothing else to do I wanted to try and track ishs transfer.
Twitter is really a great tool when doing this especially now with on campus stuff suspended
What I did was screen shot all ishs 1000's of followers and people he is following.. I can now check daily to see if he has added anyone or if any one has added him..
This allows me to see interest from and ish and potential suitors
He has been followed by a slew of smaller programs and coaches the last 24 hours but a few others stand out
Butler, Uconn, Minnesota, UAB
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Post by cardfan on Mar 26, 2020 15:23:25 GMT -6
Please god, not Butler.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2020 16:25:13 GMT -6
While Im not perfect I am pretty damn good for a nobody sitting at home with no contact from Ish
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Post by sag on Mar 26, 2020 16:31:55 GMT -6
Man, I understand this decision even less now. I figured he was planning to graduate early and not sit a year. That's a lot to ask a team to give him two scholarship years...
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Post by cardfan on Mar 26, 2020 16:49:08 GMT -6
It says a lot about how ish sees bsu basketball being next year.
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Post by sag on Mar 26, 2020 16:51:50 GMT -6
Maybe, but I think it's more of wanting to play high major for his last year and maybe being closer to his mom and siblings. It's the only way he can-I just wonder if asking for 2 years v 1 would be a deal breaker. Mark Alstork did okay on a bad Illinois his last year. Ish is better.
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Post by comet on Mar 26, 2020 16:53:28 GMT -6
I'm afraid that's pretty accurate cardfan.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2020 16:55:17 GMT -6
It says a lot about how ish sees bsu basketball being next year. I am not so sure. He would rake up good stats here. Even on a weak team. Sitting changes the read on his decision a little.
If he has to sit, it means he wants to work on his game, improving for a year, and then have a big year.
That seems to me more that he thinks he has chances after two years, but not as good as after one more year. I would say that is speculative and optimistic.
There is no really good explanation except optimism on his part. Or looking to play close to home.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 26, 2020 17:13:28 GMT -6
Racking up stats on a possibly bad or very average team next year isn’t what he’s interested in, apparently. He’s willing to sit out a year to play one year. It’s either family, or not being sure what kind of team he’s going to be part of next season. (Or how often he’d get to see the ball) Or both. The suddenness of this decision does seem to hint at family influence.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2020 17:59:47 GMT -6
Racking up stats on a possibly bad or very average team next year isn’t what he’s interested in, apparently. He’s willing to sit out a year to play one year. It’s either family, or not being sure what kind of team he’s going to be part of next season. (Or how often he’d get to see the ball) Or both. The suddenness of this decision does seem to hint at family influence. We don't know, but family and friends seem to be the main influence in most of these transfers. Plus general optimism and belief that any change is always good for the player.
If it were just rational, he'd have to weigh whether staying here with very good stats is best. I see no way he would not get the ball enough.
IF he imagines himself a ball dominant point guard which seems unlikely that is the only thing a year sitting our somewhere else might change.
But Euro ball or the minors one or the other is the extremely likely route. One year or two away. If that is so, his best chance would be to rack the points and move on to the pros and develop as a pro rather than a red shirt collegian.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2020 18:35:44 GMT -6
It says a lot about how ish sees bsu basketball being next year.
If he has to sit, it means he wants to work on his game, improving for a year, and then have a big year. There is no really good explanation except optimism on his part. Or looking to play close to home. Why are you unwilling to consider that maybe he doesn’t want to waste his senior year on a team that is likely to be worse than this year’s version? There is no way coming off his best season in year 3 that he’s decided to sit out so he can work on his game. He believes he is better than Ball State and has seen the near future here and it doesn’t look great. Plus Whitford is handing the reigns and a free pass to Boogie to do whatever he wants to do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 18:45:46 GMT -6
C’mon. He thinks we suck and he thinks he can do better. Simple as that.
He may be right....he may be wrong.
It’s not like Whit throttled his playing style. His performance, over MANY minutes of playing time, substantiates him as an average MAC player.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2020 19:46:40 GMT -6
If he has to sit, it means he wants to work on his game, improving for a year, and then have a big year. There is no really good explanation except optimism on his part. Or looking to play close to home. Why are you unwilling to consider that maybe he doesn’t want to waste his senior year on a team that is likely to be worse than this year’s version? There is no way coming off his best season in year 3 that he’s decided to sit out so he can work on his game. I considered it. It's possible but I rejected it. I think cardfan's other theory much more credible. Family advice and unwarranted optimism about the future elsewhere are far more compelling explanations.
Good luck to him, but I don't think those advisors are right.
If it is all about him becoming a pro it doesn't make sense to sit out.
If it is about playing on a big time team in the limelight, he's optimistic to believe he will get much chance and pays a big price if he has as chance after sitting a year. Besides a big time team would not want to waste a scholarship for TWO years to get ONE year of a player who will not be a big addition. Where is he going, another mid major? A bottom feeder big conference team? I don't see the glory or the lime light.
If he thinks our team would not be good enough for him to enjoy his senior season as the go to guy, he trades off sitting for year and likely sitting again. And who knows where that team will be more than a year out?
I just don't see him driven by pessimism about BSU as much as fans here who fear failure of next years team every year. Players usually are far more confident.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2020 19:55:58 GMT -6
I don’t fear failure I just trust my eyes and the past is a great predictor of the future.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2020 19:58:28 GMT -6
I don’t fear failure I just trust my eyes and the past is a great predictor of the future. Call it what you want, but I don't think players are as caught up in it. Easier for you to see that reason to transfer than for a player who would be a senior leader and go to guy next year. Optimism and family advice seems far more likely to me.
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