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Post by david75bsu on Mar 28, 2020 6:13:18 GMT -6
Finished watching the sweet sixteen runs, what a game against a great UNLV team. That Ball State team was nothing short of awesome. It would destroy this years team and the whole MAC. Even though we lost, it was a great game. Chandler’s dunk is still talked about today.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 28, 2020 6:33:37 GMT -6
Something that sounds like it can't be true, but yet IS true, is that BSU is the all-time most successful program in the MAC tourney. This despite the last 20 years of mediocrity and failure.
You can make all the excuses you want, and frame things however you want, and issue all the pie-in-the-sky predictions you want, but a BSU coach who only wins 2 MAC tourney games in 6 years should be out on his ass.
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Post by david75bsu on Mar 28, 2020 7:54:46 GMT -6
Something that sounds like it can't be true, but yet IS true, is that BSU is the all-time most successful program in the MAC tourney. This despite the last 20 years of mediocrity and failure. You can make all the excuses you want, and frame things however you want, and issue all the pie-in-the-sky predictions you want, but a BSU coach who only wins 2 MAC tourney games in 6 years should be out on his ass. Historically we have the best history in MAC basketball tourney history. For twenty years we have been wondering in the desert of mediocrity. While Whit has walked us out of the desert, can he climb the mountain? Hasn’t shown us that he can - 2 wins in the MAC Tournament in 6 years! We will never know how well we would have done in the tournament, but we should have made it interesting. If he doesn’t bring in some talent for this coming year, it should be his last. The question is, can the AD be given the support to make the correct choice for the program or will it be the same ole, same ole? There is no reason with our facilities, campus, programs, etc. that we can not attract a strong candidate.
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Post by comet on Mar 28, 2020 8:29:13 GMT -6
Agree, david, but we are now likely even more strapped to do anything with the cuts that he NCAA is now having to do. Such a move is pretty much going to have to come from private money and most of those folks I see in the CVC room at games are probably just content to win the games they go to. It gives them a good feeling when they leave and their probably satisfied.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 28, 2020 9:12:32 GMT -6
Something that sounds like it can't be true, but yet IS true, is that BSU is the all-time most successful program in the MAC tourney. This despite the last 20 years of mediocrity and failure. You can make all the excuses you want, and frame things however you want, and issue all the pie-in-the-sky predictions you want, but a BSU coach who only wins 2 MAC tourney games in 6 years should be out on his ass. The question is, can the AD be given the support to make the correct choice for the program or will it be the same ole, same ole? There is no reason with our facilities, campus, programs, etc. that we can not attract a strong candidate. Administration made some very poor choices over time. Not all the choices were poor, some were about as good as we could have expected. Especially after the Ronnie Thompson fiasco we were restricted in choices. Even at that time resources were limited by budget and that has not improved.
Now. Money issues are even worse to overcome. Doubtful we make any change involving increasing pay to pay at the top of the conference or for that matter making any change involving a buy out.
Moreover, the success we have had compared to the deep hole we were in make it harder for an AD to say it is urgent we get some reallocation of resources within athletics or reallocate priorities in fund raising given the more important priorities of the university. Looking at broader mission and budget I can't say that is wrong.
More likely there are fewer resources in the near future than more. This year the NCAA money coming in is cut and that pinches budget across all sports even more than we could have expected.
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Post by david75bsu on Mar 28, 2020 9:24:20 GMT -6
The question is, can the AD be given the support to make the correct choice for the program or will it be the same ole, same ole? There is no reason with our facilities, campus, programs, etc. that we can not attract a strong candidate. Administration made some very poor choices over time. Not all the choices were poor, some were about as good as we could have expected. Especially after the Ronnie Thompson fiasco we were restricted in choices. Even at that time resources were limited by budget and that has not improved.
Now. Money issues are even worse to overcome. Doubtful we make any change involving increasing pay to pay at the top of the conference or for that matter making any change involving a buy out.
Moreover, the success we have had compared to the deep hole we were in make it harder for an AD to say it is urgent we get some reallocation of resources within athletics or reallocate priorities in fund raising given the more important priorities of the university. Looking at broader mission and budget I can't say that is wrong.
More likely there are fewer resources in the near future than more. This year the NCAA money coming in is cut and that pinches budget across all sports even more than we could have expected.
True, and this means we need to hope Whit has a good recruiting class and he/they can overcome our weaknesses.
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 28, 2020 12:09:32 GMT -6
Something that sounds like it can't be true, but yet IS true, is that BSU is the all-time most successful program in the MAC tourney. This despite the last 20 years of mediocrity and failure. You can make all the excuses you want, and frame things however you want, and issue all the pie-in-the-sky predictions you want, but a BSU coach who only wins 2 MAC tourney games in 6 years should be out on his ass. This is the truth
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 28, 2020 12:24:15 GMT -6
Just trying to get some past history on the guys in here. I'll go first.....I was at just about every practice in the Majerus/Hunsaker days. Saw some incredible stuff.Love University Gym, beating Purdue after losing by 56 the year before, Cardinal Stretch, Dave Barber the human vicory cigar, and Paris McCurdys put back jam vs Eastern Michigan. There's no way you could possibly think Whitford is a good coach if you went to "just about every practice in the Majerus/ Hunsaker days." One hell of a trolling run, though.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 28, 2020 12:28:07 GMT -6
Sag.....I like it!! Lol....I really am hoping the General is getting excited!! Dominant center = 1 month ban on the boys Whitford bashing What gets banned if he fails to land a dominant center? Hunsaker76 for giving false info and trying to spread hope
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 28, 2020 12:28:20 GMT -6
Finished watching the sweet sixteen runs, what a game against a great UNLV team. That Ball State team was nothing short of awesome. It would destroy this years team and the whole MAC. Even though we lost, it was a great game. Chandler’s dunk is still talked about today. Ray's teams would destroy any of Taylor's or Whitford's teams. Heck, most of Buckley's teams would destroy Taylor's or Whitford's teams.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 28, 2020 12:46:55 GMT -6
Finished watching the sweet sixteen runs, what a game against a great UNLV team. That Ball State team was nothing short of awesome. It would destroy this years team and the whole MAC. Even though we lost, it was a great game. Chandler’s dunk is still talked about today. Ray's teams would destroy any of Taylor's or Whitford's teams. Heck, most of Buckley's teams would destroy Taylor's or Whitford's teams. 100%
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Post by cardfan on Mar 28, 2020 12:49:13 GMT -6
What gets banned if he fails to land a dominant center? Hunsaker76 for giving false info and trying to spread hope Yeah, why would he know who we’re getting when no one else knows a damn thing and transfers have just started? What connection to Whitford (or this mythical mystery player?). But if he’s actually right I’ll be all for it. We freaking need a stud guy in the middle. And seriously, any big kid worth a damn should be able to see they’d play, like right now. Today. Except for that whole perimeter offense thing whit operates that limits touches a post gets.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 28, 2020 13:01:29 GMT -6
We will take some form of center we have too.. I just want to see if he is dominant.. I asked hunsaker to define dominant but he declined
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 28, 2020 13:15:33 GMT -6
I totally agree with Hunsaker76...you just need one run with Whit and all we be forgiven; say what you like but after this past season you would have to say we’re trending up!
And, I would like a brut in the middle but our guy named Teague guarded a lot of 5’s this past season and he was first team! Fact.
I think we got a lot of good pieces coming back and if we get another good piece or two we could be the pre season favorite
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Post by cardfan on Mar 28, 2020 13:23:03 GMT -6
It’s hard not to trend up when the previous year was a disaster and all the the years before that ended in disappointment. All we know from this year is we were a 3 seed and whit had his first player earn first team all Mac. That’s all we know. Oh, and we got hammered I’m the semis of a fake CBI tourney simulation....
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