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Post by 00hmh on Nov 28, 2017 10:01:34 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 28, 2017 10:08:20 GMT -6
I saw this how in the world do they think Muncie is going to support this
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 10:38:05 GMT -6
If such a project comes to fruition, then BSU shouldn't need to consider adding lights or additional amenities to its existing facility. The proper facility for generating revenue would have lights, entertainment venues, etc. to generate income, and all of these features do not need to be available at The Ball Diamond. Lights might be the exclusion. Lights allow flexibility in scheduling to handle rain delays and to schedule games later in the day so that folks that work can attend games. With the condition of the Muncie economy, I do not see a regular minor league franchise, or even an independent minor league franchise being interested in coming to town. Best bet would be a college summer league team. They have a short season, not one that would generate the type of revenue to offset new construction. College summer teams are financially structured to augment income to an existing facility, like Warn Field in Terre Haute, Loeb Stadium in Lafayette, Municipal Stadium in Kokomo, or McBride Stadium in Richmond. Loeb is being renovated, and will be new construction ($16 million). They have the Aviators (college summer league), and the Colt World Series (youth league), but I'm not sure if that is enough revenue to be profitable. I'm sure the City of Lafayette will absorb a lot of the costs of the new stadium. The Colt World Series brings hotel and restaurant business to town. Time will tell whether that project is a success. Kokomo has had good attendance for the Jackrabbit games. Their project was a renovation of an existing park ($9 million). They will probably show better ROI than Lafayette. For Muncie, I think it would be more cost effective if Muncie and Ball State were to join forces and build something the university could use, that could be combined with other purposes like college summer league, or a large youth tournament (usually need additional ball fields). You need to generate revenue from advertising, concessions (particularly beer and wine) and events, not just the game. Ball State truly needs to consider charging admission for baseball and softball games. People are truly willing to pay $5 to see HS baseball (they prove it every day of the Spring HS season). They will pay $5-$7 to see quality D1 baseball.
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 28, 2017 12:18:15 GMT -6
Nice comment cardfan. I also have been a longtime follower of minor league baseball. Muncie as you state would have less chance today than when Anderson brought in the Lawmen 30 years ago. Their is no money within most east central Indiana homes. If they do anything they should get a college summer league team. The only Indiana city without a minor league baseball team that might be able to make a profit is Evansville.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 13:09:15 GMT -6
We have a college summer league team in Wilmington and my wife and I go several times during the summer. The Braves asked the city to build a stadium for their singe A team and the city turned it down as too much up-front money for the long term benefit. I'm assuming Wilmington area population and projected growth would be substantially larger than Muncie.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Nov 28, 2017 13:13:21 GMT -6
I would love this because I love baseball and am a star beer-league softball player. However, I can't fathom how Muncie and the surrounding community could/would support this.
Assume it would be for A-ball?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 18:57:56 GMT -6
Nice comment cardfan. I also have been a longtime follower of minor league baseball. Muncie as you state would have less chance today than when Anderson brought in the Lawmen 30 years ago. Their is no money within most east central Indiana homes. If they do anything they should get a college summer league team. The only Indiana city without a minor league baseball team that might be able to make a profit is Evansville. Yep. I remember when the Evansville Triplets were a AAA affiliate of the Twins/Brewers/Tigers. They are now the Nashville Sounds. Evansville has similar demographics to South Bend, Appleton, Davenport, Peoria... and could support a Single A franchise easily.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 18:58:54 GMT -6
I would love this because I love baseball and am a star beer-league softball player. However, I can't fathom how Muncie and the surrounding community could/would support this. Assume it would be for A-ball? I don't see Muncie, or ECI being big enough for A-ball
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 19:02:17 GMT -6
Nice comment cardfan. I also have been a longtime follower of minor league baseball. Muncie as you state would have less chance today than when Anderson brought in the Lawmen 30 years ago. Their is no money within most east central Indiana homes. If they do anything they should get a college summer league team. The only Indiana city without a minor league baseball team that might be able to make a profit is Evansville. Yep. I remember when the Evansville Triplets were a AAA affiliate of the Twins/Brewers/Tigers. They are now the Nashville Sounds. Evansville has similar demographics to South Bend, Appleton, Davenport, Peoria... and could support a Single A franchise easily. BTW. Nashville will probably be switching affiliation from the A's to possibly the Rangers.
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Post by DaRegion on Nov 28, 2017 19:15:52 GMT -6
Up here in "The Region," we have an independent team playing in Gary and there is a stadium that was built not too long ago in Whiting where you can see the oil refineries behind the outfield fences which accommodates the HS team, a summer college team, and local youth/adult leagues us it as well for games and tournaments. Hammond has a field that has a team for "prospects" who are looking to get picked up by minor league or independent league teams and Block Stadium in EC is being renovated which is where the HS team plays and I think they're looking to get on board with hosting a summer college team as well. The fields in Hammond and EC also have youth/adult league teams playing on them also.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 19:51:03 GMT -6
Up here in "The Region," we have an independent team playing in Gary and there is a stadium that was built not too long ago in Whiting where you can see the oil refineries behind the outfield fences which accommodates the HS team, a summer college team, and local youth/adult leagues us it as well for games and tournaments. Hammond has a field that has a team for "prospects" who are looking to get picked up by minor league or independent league teams and Block Stadium in EC is being renovated which is where the HS team plays and I think they're looking to get on board with hosting a summer college team as well. The fields in Hammond and EC also have youth/adult league teams playing on them also. Woodmar. I remember that place.
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Post by DaRegion on Nov 28, 2017 20:40:16 GMT -6
I hope you're referring to Oil City Stadium in Whiting, cardfan12. It's something to see with all stacks with the fires burning on the top of them off in the distance beyond the outfield fences. You know you're from The Region when you can smell if before you see it with BP and all the steel mills around here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 21:28:41 GMT -6
I hope you're referring to Oil City Stadium in Whiting, cardfan12. It's something to see with all stacks with the fires burning on the top of them off in the distance beyond the outfield fences. You know you're from The Region when you can smell if before you see it with BP and all the steel mills around here. I've been to Oil City Stadium, but I grew up going to Woodmar Shopping Center in Hammond. I used to play at Block Stadium, Roberts Field and the old stadium that was at Whiting Park. When you play in The Calumet Region, you can tell when the wind shifts because you'll smell a different factory.
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Post by DaRegion on Nov 28, 2017 21:42:42 GMT -6
I hope you're referring to Oil City Stadium in Whiting, cardfan12. It's something to see with all stacks with the fires burning on the top of them off in the distance beyond the outfield fences. You know you're from The Region when you can smell if before you see it with BP and all the steel mills around here. I've been to Oil City Stadium, but I grew up going to Woodmar Shopping Center in Hammond. I used to play at Block Stadium, Roberts Field and the old stadium that was at Whiting Park. When you play in The Calumet Region, you can tell when the wind shifts because you'll smell a different factory. I grew up about 2 minutes from Woodmar Mall. I lived there as a kid. I've never played at the new stadium in Whiting but I did play at the old field at Whiting Park before it was taken out. I've played at Block Stadium and hopefully I can again this coming summer when the renovations are done. Play a couple games a year at The Steelyard in Gary but that isn't saying much....that field isn't what it once was. Never heard of Roberts Field.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 21:49:06 GMT -6
I've been to Oil City Stadium, but I grew up going to Woodmar Shopping Center in Hammond. I used to play at Block Stadium, Roberts Field and the old stadium that was at Whiting Park. When you play in The Calumet Region, you can tell when the wind shifts because you'll smell a different factory. I grew up about 2 minutes from Woodmar Mall. I lived there as a kid. I've never played at the new stadium in Whiting but I did play at the old field at Whiting Park before it was taken out. I've played at Block Stadium and hopefully I can again this coming summer when the renovations are done. Play a couple games a year at The Steelyard in Gary but that isn't saying much....that field isn't what it once was. Never heard of Roberts Field. Maybe it was Roberts Park, on Wolf Lake. If I remember Hammond Post 80 used to use one of those fields for games, but I think they move over to Hammond Clark HS.
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