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Post by reevo on Jan 26, 2018 14:25:51 GMT -6
Buffalo is taking risks on kids we would probably never allow on campus. Akron and Kent have been taking chances on players for years. We used to do this until the WAD became AD and ran off Ray.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 14:26:32 GMT -6
Buffalo is 7-0 in the MAC and has won every game by double digits. They are a program that has the appearance of dominating the MAC. We aren't even close to them. Not sure any MAC team is close to them this year. By our 5th year under one coach we should be contending..... What is a good outcome this year in the next 11 games, and next year, and what can we do the next game makes more sense to me to discuss. Except for venting,I suppose... Probably because you have been wrong at Whitford from day one.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 26, 2018 14:30:52 GMT -6
Yep Buffalo has a non conference SOS of 13 which means they are building a program capable of getting an at large bid. Just shows what a tough conference the MAC is! Two bids now!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 14:31:50 GMT -6
Yep Buffalo has a non conference SOS of 13 which means they are building a program capable of getting an at large bid. Just shows what a tough conference the MAC is! Two bids now! Thanks for the dumbest comment of the last 10 years.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 26, 2018 14:32:44 GMT -6
Buffalo is taking risks on kids we would probably never allow on campus. Akron and Kent have been taking chances on players for years. We used to do this until the WAD became AD and ran off Ray. I am not sure where the line is on that. Not real upset with the current situation. We're taking some risks.
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Post by rgmillikan on Jan 26, 2018 14:42:39 GMT -6
Put it this way I'm at a point where even landing a NIT bid once a recruiting cycle would sadly be an upgrade over Nov. 2002-current although it wouldn't be as exciting as getting into the dance. I know I've said before I entered as a freshman in '01 after growing up a Purdue fan before I knew where I'd attend college and have never witnessed a Big Dance bid. No one should feel guilty or fan shamed for being upset in yr 5 with a 3-4 start. It's not acceptable . We should at least be neck and neck with this year's Toledo team by yr 5 and so far it's not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 14:47:06 GMT -6
Put it this way I'm at a point where even landing a NIT bid once a recruiting cycle would sadly be an upgrade over Nov. 2002-current although it wouldn't be as exciting as getting into the dance. I know I've said before I entered as a freshman in '01 after growing up a Purdue fan before I knew where I'd attend college and have never witnessed a Big Dance bid. No one should feel guilty or fan shamed for being upset in yr 5 with a 3-4 start. It's not acceptable . We should at least be neck and neck with this year's Toledo team by yr 5 and so far it's not the case. The biggest problem is the lack of any plan to improve the current situation. Both the coach and AD seem happy with the status quo of mid pack finishes.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 26, 2018 15:05:29 GMT -6
Gora really put the hammer down on basketball admissions when Buckley was coach and it put the nail in the coffin.
Anyway, an outcome I'd be interested in every year is that our team does not go into some ridiculous funk at some point EVERY year. Last year we recovered from it to have a decent finish, and it was promising. But we had a funk all the same. Consistency in play and effort would just be nice to see at some point and Whitford's team seems to go through it every year. AND, it would be very nice to have a team on the floor that I feel (and others as well) cares. Too often Whitford's teams don't seem to care. Basketball means alot to us here, I'd like to see a team that it clearly and consistently means alot to as well. Just going through the motions won't cut it. How many times a year does the coach have to lament "body language" and "didn't play the right way"? Not having players get suspended every year would be a nice little bonus.
As far as win/loss outcomes the rest of this season - beat the teams we should beat! Consistently. Earn a two seed. Which appears to be a very long shot at this point. Win at least TWO MAC tourney games. This team is very obviously not championship worthy, but making some noise in the tourney should be doable, IF they play like they are able.
As the dead horse keeps saying, it's gotten real old by now to see a team that's lethargic, apathetic, disjointed, inconsistent and has very important and glaring roster holes. The evidence would seem to indicate that's how a Whitford coached team will always be constructed and operate. I sure hope that's not the case and next year is finally THE year. I think most fans want to at least feel like we can make a run in a given year. (Kid, who sees a run happening every year, notwithstanding) ;-)
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 26, 2018 15:08:03 GMT -6
Put it this way I'm at a point where even landing a NIT bid once a recruiting cycle would sadly be an upgrade over Nov. 2002-current although it wouldn't be as exciting as getting into the dance. I know I've said before I entered as a freshman in '01 after growing up a Purdue fan before I knew where I'd attend college and have never witnessed a Big Dance bid. No one should feel guilty or fan shamed for being upset in yr 5 with a 3-4 start. It's not acceptable . We should at least be neck and neck with this year's Toledo team by yr 5 and so far it's not the case. The biggest problem is the lack of any plan to improve the current situation. Both the coach and AD seem happy with the status quo of mid pack finishes. Whoa now, when have you talked to either one about that? Mid pack is definitely not the goal. They both may be happy with our chances of improvement. Not apoplectic about the current results, but disappointed a bit. That's a different matter.
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Post by Hoopsmith on Jan 26, 2018 15:30:23 GMT -6
Buffalo is taking risks on kids we would probably never allow on campus. Akron and Kent have been taking chances on players for years. We used to do this until the WAD became AD and ran off Ray. That's because Ray was recruiting some kids that would've fit right in on Huggins' Cincinnati teams. I've said before the Muncie and University communities have little stomach for the extracurricular activities of some high-level D1 athletes. You can win with talented, good kids. That's what Buckley, for all his strategic faults, and Whitford have tried to do here. Hell, a couple of weeks ago, we were bitching about 20 year old college kids smoking a little weed. There were people in Muncie who complained about the character of the Sweet 16 team and even the 2002 team. I'm not talking about the element of folks who can't go across town to campus, I mean ticket-buying, influential people. I'm not afraid of taking chances on at-risk kids, but we run the risk of getting a character who's too good to get rid of for a trivial (understand I am not talking about assault or other violent crime) offense.
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 26, 2018 15:34:41 GMT -6
Its how you are playing in late February and March that really counts...this team still has time to catch fire again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:37:14 GMT -6
The biggest problem is the lack of any plan to improve the current situation. Both the coach and AD seem happy with the status quo of mid pack finishes. Whoa now, when have you talked to either one about that? Mid pack is definitely not the goal. They both may be happy with our chances of improvement. Not apoplectic about the current results, but disappointed a bit. That's a different matter. Have you seen one change indicating there is an actual plan in place or is it just the same thing every year ? I don't care what people claim their goals are, I want people who have a plan to make it happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:40:25 GMT -6
Buffalo is taking risks on kids we would probably never allow on campus. Akron and Kent have been taking chances on players for years. We used to do this until the WAD became AD and ran off Ray. Whitford have tried to do here. Dude, there are some complete knuckleheads on this team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:42:41 GMT -6
Its how you are playing in late February and March that really counts...this team still has time to catch fire again Even during the winning streak we weren't playing well most of the time. We just happened to be playing horrible teams.
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Post by Hoopsmith on Jan 26, 2018 15:53:25 GMT -6
Whitford have tried to do here. Dude, there are some complete knuckleheads on this team. There may be, but I am only privy to what I see take place on the floor, and occasionally the newspaper. What I have seen is the square pegs getting eliminated, i.e., Turner, Jeremiah Davis' minutes vanished, Mark Alstork (I have no idea if there were issues or he just didn't mesh with the new system) transferred out to become a contributor elsewhere. Obviously no one on this team is irreplaceable, so I'm led to believe that Whitford will tolerate undisciplined play and minor transgressions outside of felonious assault, which hardly makes him an anything-goes players' coach. The last my-way-or-the-highway guy we had was Buckley, who ran off several players and others actually regressed under his micromanaging style.
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