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Post by thebsukid on Jan 28, 2018 11:55:58 GMT -6
My point stands. You should have a kinder and gentler heart!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 11:58:38 GMT -6
This is a 22 year old adult who was handed a silver platter, took a dump on it, and sold it to smoke weed. So I can safely assume you also wouldn't hire Tyler ?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 28, 2018 12:45:15 GMT -6
Guys Im not often one to suggest shutting anything down but this is getting out of hand. If we want to discuss Whitfords discipline tactics thats cool but Tyler is gone and he is not coming back. We should probably just leave it at that.
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Post by cardfan on Jan 28, 2018 13:01:10 GMT -6
Agree.
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Post by ballman on Jan 28, 2018 13:04:21 GMT -6
most of us who frequent this forum, including me, are more likely perfectionists. we want perfect seasons, perfect players, perfect plays, coach etc. unfortunately, the world we live in is far from being perfect. i would like to thank Jeremy for his contributions to Ball State and wish him well in his future. i don't know his backround or history, but if he is like most black inner city kids, i'd say he did his best with what he had.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:05:39 GMT -6
Guys Im not often one to suggest shutting anything down but this is getting out of hand. If we want to discuss Whitfords discipline tactics thats cool but Tyler is gone and he is not coming back. We should probably just leave it at that. Okay, but how can one subject possibly be removed from the other ? The problem is this will continue to happen until Shitbird adopts an adult way of handling malcontents and screw-ups. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:07:41 GMT -6
i would like to thank Jeremy for his contributions to Ball State and wish him well in his future. i don't know his backround or history, but if he is like most black inner city kids, i'd say he did his best with what he had. I just puked in my mouth..................... |
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 28, 2018 13:19:18 GMT -6
I like to know who you thought was out of hand? Sure not me for suggesting the kid might be good fundamentally at heart?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 28, 2018 13:23:28 GMT -6
Guys Im not often one to suggest shutting anything down but this is getting out of hand. If we want to discuss Whitfords discipline tactics thats cool but Tyler is gone and he is not coming back. We should probably just leave it at that. Okay, but how can one subject possibly be removed from the other ? The problem is this will continue to happen until Shitbird adopts an adult way of handling malcontents and screw-ups. I do not disagree most of us agree way to many chances were given. I guess we just see what the future holds and see if more problems arise. I do not like whats a going on either. I do not know if backgrounds are being checked as they should have been or not. If its a case a kids just going rouge then there is not much you can do to prevent that. If shit just keeps popping up then Whit needs to either fix it or figure out a different option when selecting kids |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:28:01 GMT -6
I like to know who you thought was out of hand? Sure not me for suggesting the kid might be good fundamentally at heart? I am fairly certain many people serving long prison sentences, for violent crimes, are pleasant enough to be around most of the time. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 28, 2018 13:30:44 GMT -6
I like to know who you thought was out of hand? Sure not me for suggesting the kid might be good fundamentally at heart? No one in particular just reading over this and some other threads some if us have said some things we probably should not have. I know I did and I just think its all been said now. Not sure if we need to just keep killing the kid. Its over for him and I think we should just leave it that. |
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 28, 2018 13:31:13 GMT -6
Halftime, doing weed and prison are truly a world a part....you truly are delusional. Did you take Psych 100 at BSU?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 13:36:05 GMT -6
Halftime, doing weed and prison are truly a world a part....you truly are delusional. Did you take Psych 100 at BSU? That wasn't my point. You can't tell if someone is a good person by spending a few minutes with them. We all know plenty of shitheads who seemed okay at first. I know people whom I consider friends, but wouldn't hire or invite into my closer life at gunpoint. |
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 28, 2018 13:53:10 GMT -6
Ok fair enough, but did you ever think a few of us may either know him or no information about him?
My point has always been simple, I don’t condone breaking team rules but from what I know he’s a pretty good kid. I wish him well.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 28, 2018 15:17:23 GMT -6
Okay, but how can one subject possibly be removed from the other ? The problem is this will continue to happen until Shitbird adopts an adult way of handling malcontents and screw-ups. I do not disagree most of us agree way to many chances were given. I guess we just see what the future holds and see if more problems arise. I do not like whats a going on either. I do not know if backgrounds are being checked as they should have been or not. If its a case a kids just going rouge then there is not much you can do to prevent that. If shit just keeps popping up then Whit needs to either fix it or figure out a different option when selecting kids That sounds like an adult thing to say. I am not worried too much that we need to change much. Maybe took one too many chances on Tyler but facts here seem to indicate Tyler was a good kid in HS. I doubt there was a way to predict this result at recruitment, not a case where we took a big risk then. We check kids out thoroughly enough, and I support taking some risks. Sometimes we do know there are risks and do take them on. That's not it here. Do we have any evidence at all of malcontent in Tyler. No. Sure, he screwed up. Not the same thing at all. And damned if parents and teachers and coaches sometime make mistakes giving second chances to those who after all are not adults yet. It's a risk. 20-20 hindsight is great, but taking risks and sometimes losing is what an adult often has to do. |
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