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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 12:29:56 GMT -6
Yeah Walton will start at point, Hazen will come off the bench.
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Post by reevo on Mar 27, 2018 12:46:23 GMT -6
Until we get better inside and we can lock people up defensively on a consistent basis, we are not going anywhere.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 14:03:05 GMT -6
Until we get better inside and we can lock people up defensively on a consistent basis, we are not going anywhere. Can win a lot of games if we come close to doing that. Clearly must do both and do better to have more success than this year and last.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 14:11:10 GMT -6
I’m hearing that Huggins can be a beast inside and can rebound! Just maybe Huggins is going to provide more than some may believe. Then he never should have been redshirted. I'll go so far as to say he was worth a scholarship, but the idea is he needed a year of development to get to the point where he is. Coaches would probably say he is a good enough defender and rebounder to make it likely he contributes in a significant way down the line, doubt they say he is ready for prime time with a lot of minutes right now. Early on I doubt he'd have helped much. Would it have been worth 4-5 minutes a game late in the season to burn a red shirt? If he helps this next year and continues to improve he may be ready for starters minutes down the line. We might get 3 good years in addition to contributing next year. That would make a few people eat their words.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 14:21:39 GMT -6
As I’ve said before, I’ve heard conflicting reports about Hazen. Not necessarily an impact player. But have heard Walton IS good, but cannot shoot worth a damn. His game will have to be driving to the rim. Which we do need. But teams won’t need to guard him on the perimeter so they could take away the drive more easily. Hazen is good. But I guess I agree he is not clearly a star player, a case where we may see seen no one standout area of performance, just good at a lot of things, and physical. Does play both ends, does compete very hard. Has, toughness we can use. Walton managed to get to the rim against SEC competition. He will be able to do that in the MAC. He has worked on shooting, all he has to do is be able to hit wide open to force people out and he will be very good on the drive. Even without that, if he has the ball they have to guard him and cut him off from the basket, cannot give him much room to get a head of steam up. I remember back to a very good small guard who played for the Majerus era teams who could not shoot a lick. Could not really get to the rim that well, either. But was a tough cookie, and he could see the court and pass... To me you have to give Walton the chance to have the ball with his success or failure to depend less on shooting than whether he can pass, especially on the drive and dish, whether he can finish against contact, and improve his free throw shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 14:27:48 GMT -6
Then he never should have been redshirted. I'll go so far as to say he was worth a scholarship, but the idea is he needed a year of development to get to the point where he is. Coaches would probably say he is a good enough defender and rebounder to make it likely he contributes in a significant way down the line, doubt they say he is ready for prime time with a lot of minutes right now. Early on I doubt he'd have helped much. Would it have been worth 4-5 minutes a game late in the season to burn a red shirt? If he helps this next year and continues to improve he may be ready for starters minutes down the line. We might get 3 good years in addition to contributing next year. That would make a few people eat their words. If he develops into a quality big he likely won't be here for his fifth year anyway.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 14:39:15 GMT -6
Oh please just because a guy isn't a "dominating big man" doesn't mean he does other things well. This is just your like stupid comments about recruits helping on defense. Now try and explain why we recruit perimeter players who can't shoot or play the point. We have two guards coming in who are MAC talents. Neither is a "point guard" but both can probably defend on the ball better than our players this year. Both are bigger guards than any G we had this year, unless you really count Sellers as a guard, and both can defend perimeter players. I am the guy who always wants shooters, so I agree both need to improve outside shooting to be great recruits, but they are good recruits. The question is can they do enough things well. They will make us better adding things we have lacked and need. Not perfect, but as you argue persuasively in the case of big men, no recruit at the MAC level is likely to be perfect. What more can we ask? We do have 3 guys on the roster this year who are listed as guards and play point.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 14:41:03 GMT -6
I'll go so far as to say he was worth a scholarship, but the idea is he needed a year of development to get to the point where he is. Coaches would probably say he is a good enough defender and rebounder to make it likely he contributes in a significant way down the line, doubt they say he is ready for prime time with a lot of minutes right now. Early on I doubt he'd have helped much. Would it have been worth 4-5 minutes a game late in the season to burn a red shirt? If he helps this next year and continues to improve he may be ready for starters minutes down the line. We might get 3 good years in addition to contributing next year. That would make a few people eat their words. If he develops into a quality big he likely won't be here for his fifth year anyway. I don't understand. We have quality big men graduate in the MAC every year. And 5th year players who stay to finish up. Where do you think he is going?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 15:05:06 GMT -6
If he develops into a quality big he likely won't be here for his fifth year anyway. I don't understand. We have quality big men graduate in the MAC every year. And 5th year players who stay to finish up. Where do you think he is going? Would you pick Ball State for grad school ?
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 27, 2018 16:51:02 GMT -6
I don't understand. We have quality big men graduate in the MAC every year. And 5th year players who stay to finish up. Where do you think he is going? Would you pick Ball State for grad school ? Sellers did...and there is the small matter of wanting to play on the team where he's been successful.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 29, 2018 12:03:22 GMT -6
Unless he’s hurt Hazen will start more games than he won’t next year
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 29, 2018 13:46:40 GMT -6
Unless he’s hurt Hazen will start more games than he won’t next year I'd hope so because someone is going to have to start.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 29, 2018 13:53:53 GMT -6
Some minor random fan talk about persons to purdue going on in twitter today. NOTHING to be concerned about yet though
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 29, 2018 14:32:33 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 29, 2018 14:34:08 GMT -6
Some minor random fan talk about persons to purdue going on in twitter today. NOTHING to be concerned about yet though They could be losing a lot of firepower. Muncie paper had an article this week. Naturally more column inches than anything they say about BSU. If it happened, then we would really need some outside shooting...but I don't know if he would thrive against B10 defenders and not sure he can guard the better players. I would assume the chatter says as much and says also that as much as Purdue might lose they will have talent that would compete for PT.
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