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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 29, 2018 14:35:58 GMT -6
He would be a back up player at Purdue guess it just depends on what he wants
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Post by cardfan on Mar 29, 2018 15:00:55 GMT -6
Tayler is s good Mac player. But he’d struggle in the big 10.
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 29, 2018 16:09:39 GMT -6
Tayler is s good Mac player. But he’d struggle in the big 10. Some players thrive on taking on a challenge. Thinking like that might be just what motivates him to give Purdue a try.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 29, 2018 20:03:29 GMT -6
While he is not a perfect PG and he has some real limitations. I think we would be foobared with out him
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Post by rgmillikan on Mar 29, 2018 20:03:40 GMT -6
I agree that next season is very much a make or break season on how I view Whitford; but that has ZERO relation as to whether or not he keeps his job..as in my opinion, the school will NEVER buyout his contract. I feel he will definitely remain head coach until his contract expires (unless something horrendous occurs ...violations, etc). The tough part about judging next season is that even if we play to the top of our ability...I still think we are a distant second to Buffalo. I think Whitford could be bought out in 2 years if they didn't take the next step(MAC Finals and/or a real postseason tourney starting with a N not a C) and were very mediocre in his 7th yr. I don't think a 2 yr buyout is a complete financial backbreaker compared to say buying out 4 years.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 29, 2018 22:01:51 GMT -6
I can not imagine four more years of Whit at the helm. Help us all.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 30, 2018 5:58:59 GMT -6
Here is the sort of optimism I can get behind.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 30, 2018 7:45:06 GMT -6
Here is the sort of optimism I can get behind. What I don't get is why anyone thinks the BSU administration will suddenly become genius in hiring a new coach. Presumably doing so on a restricted budget, no matter how you minimize the terms of a buyout. That really requires optimism. And I have very grave doubts that the next AD will have a mandate to make BSU an athletic juggernaut, head and shoulders above the rest of the MAC, which strikes me as what the more demanding fans might want. Without a fundamental change in budgeting and setting a high priority on athletics big change depends on genius or on very good luck, see all the discussion about the BSU curse if that is the slim thread we hang our success on. The good news is whenever we search for a new basketball coach this is a much better job than when we last entered the casino and shot craps looking for a cheap coach who is against the odds great. It's a lot easier to get good candidates when you follow a winning coach with an above average salary which is probably the floor for the new coach, have a roster with some good talent, your name is not mud in the recruiting footprint and the last coach wasn't fleeing town after disaster telling the world this was a hostile hell hole full of racists, with facilities that were without basketballs. Optimism and BSU sports just don't mix all that well, I'll admit that, and I am the guy everyone says is way too optimistic about it.
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Post by journalismjoe76 on Mar 30, 2018 8:18:49 GMT -6
Here is the sort of optimism I can get behind. What I don't get is why anyone thinks the BSU administration will suddenly become genius in hiring a new coach. Presumably doing so on a restricted budget, no matter how you minimize the terms of a buyout. That really requires optimism. And I have very grave doubts that the next AD will have a mandate to make BSU an athletic juggernaut, head and shoulders above the rest of the MAC, which strikes me as what the more demanding fans might want. Without a fundamental change in budgeting and setting a high priority on athletics big change depends on genius or on very good luck, see all the discussion about the BSU curse if that is the slim thread we hang our success on. The good news is whenever we search for a new basketball coach this is a much better job than when we last entered the casino and shot craps looking for a cheap coach who is against the odds great. It's a lot easier to get good candidates when you follow a winning coach with an above average salary which is probably the floor for the new coach, have a roster with some good talent, your name is not mud in the recruiting footprint and the last coach wasn't fleeing town after disaster telling the world this was a hostile hell hole full of racists, with facilities that were without basketballs. Optimism and BSU sports just don't mix all that well, I'll admit that, and I am the guy everyone says is way too optimistic about it. I want to temper my optimism as well - but I do believe President Mearns has a more favorable view of athletics than most of our previous presidents. He was at the helm at Northern Kentucky University as it transitioned to D1 earlier this decade, so he has seen the role athletics can play in the creating a "brand". Plus - I have noticed his attendance at the basketball games. We can always hope.
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Post by comet on Mar 30, 2018 8:54:20 GMT -6
Obviously, the AD hire will have an impact on all of this also.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 30, 2018 16:06:53 GMT -6
Not at all. I guess if you're stupid and lack imagination, you might somehow assume that anyone wishing to try a different coach does so under the impression that "the BSU administration will suddenly become genius in hiring a new coach".
Seems pretty obvious, but I guess it has to be explained that one might want to try a new coach based on the hope that the administration might just get lucky, and that an unknown is always better that known failure...even if you don't place the odds of success with the unknown particularly high.
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Post by rgmillikan on Mar 31, 2018 13:06:35 GMT -6
Here is the sort of optimism I can get behind. What I don't get is why anyone thinks the BSU administration will suddenly become genius in hiring a new coach. Presumably doing so on a restricted budget, no matter how you minimize the terms of a buyout. That really requires optimism. And I have very grave doubts that the next AD will have a mandate to make BSU an athletic juggernaut, head and shoulders above the rest of the MAC, which strikes me as what the more demanding fans might want. Without a fundamental change in budgeting and setting a high priority on athletics big change depends on genius or on very good luck, see all the discussion about the BSU curse if that is the slim thread we hang our success on. The good news is whenever we search for a new basketball coach this is a much better job than when we last entered the casino and shot craps looking for a cheap coach who is against the odds great. It's a lot easier to get good candidates when you follow a winning coach with an above average salary which is probably the floor for the new coach, have a roster with some good talent, your name is not mud in the recruiting footprint and the last coach wasn't fleeing town after disaster telling the world this was a hostile hell hole full of racists, with facilities that were without basketballs. Optimism and BSU sports just don't mix all that well, I'll admit that, and I am the guy everyone says is way too optimistic about it. I'm not asking for a juggernaut, I'm not asking for 3 NCAAs in 4 yr that Buffalo has accomplished, I'm asking for 1 freaking MAC finals, NIT or NCAA appearance in the next 2 yr. Is that asking for complete dominance here? Or I could even live with a. If we get that, I'm willing to cut Whitford a little slack, if not see ya in 2020 unless you aspire for Ball State to be a 10-8/11-7 MAC team for the next 6 years. If you want banners put up for CBIs and CITs, more power to you. If you do,that's fine but the rest of us want a little more than that. Even the Kid wants more and you and him and 2 of his lone defenders on this board. Part of the reason BSU is in this mess is for hanging onto Buckley and Taylor too long. Just saying. Our women's program has been to I believe 4 MAC Finals in the sane timeframe that BSU has been to zero.
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Post by rgmillikan on Mar 31, 2018 13:20:38 GMT -6
Not at all. I guess if you're stupid and lack imagination, you might somehow assume that anyone wishing to try a different coach does so under the impression that "the BSU administration will suddenly become genius in hiring a new coach".
Seems pretty obvious, but I guess it has to be explained that one might want to try a new coach based on the hope that the administration might just get lucky, and that an unknown is always better that known failure...even if you don't place the odds of success with the unknown particularly high.
However we should be celebrating 3 CIT invites, 1 MAC tournament win thru yr 5, and not run the risk of chasing a coach out the door capable of beating UT Martin at their place. (In my sarcastic tone)
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Post by sweep on Jan 30, 2019 20:12:38 GMT -6
I believe Whit has brought the program back to respectability, however, no post season particularly in the last 2 seasons bothers even me. I’d say NIT minimum next year or time to make a change!!! Now, having said that I believe next years team will be very good and significantly improved! We will know a lot after Charleston. But think of this starting line up: Persons Walton Teague Hazen Moses With Ish, Mallers, and Gunn getting significant minutes plus I’m hearing Huggins is a beast around the basket and the Fr may need to be redshirted. You know, while I will agree that Buffalo will again be good they lose their quarterback Clark the transfer from Mo Yeah just imagine that as a line-up.................
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Post by bsu1 on Jan 31, 2019 10:39:59 GMT -6
I've been a Whit supporter until now. Iagree Whit brought us back to the level of respectability. I thought last year was going to be special, then came the suicide of Hollywood, suspensions and dismissals, short bench and the February meltdown. Then this was going to be the year to get back to the dance or at least the NIT. Now we have lost 6 of 7 and showing no sign of coming out of this funk. I don't see us having an inside game; under utilizing Trey and Teague. Starting Neihls? He's fortunate to even making the team let alone start. He's had six years to recruit a point guard or a junkyard dog presence in the middle. I see game after game opposing coaches make adjustments at halftime that we can't seem to do. Whit brought to respectability but isn't the coach we need to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the MAC. It is time for a change.
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