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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 13:27:34 GMT -6
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Post by sweep on Dec 17, 2018 13:27:34 GMT -6
I believe that in the star press, the coach said this injury will hurt our depth. But if you lose one player, do you really go from a deep team, to a team without depth? (Unless of course that player is a star.) Our true bench strength was exposed early in the season. Although Whitford liked to brag-it-up, it wasn't anything to fall back on.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 13:28:52 GMT -6
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Post by sweep on Dec 17, 2018 13:28:52 GMT -6
well it forces you to use Gunn more which is a double sided sword.. If he gets hot his threes can help.. Problem is for every three he makes he gives up 2 cause he can not play a lick of D His threes can help if no one guarding him.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 13:42:19 GMT -6
Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 17, 2018 13:42:19 GMT -6
well it forces you to use Gunn more which is a double sided sword.. If he gets hot his threes can help.. Problem is for every three he makes he gives up 2 cause he can not play a lick of D His threes can help if no one guarding him. Well there is that
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 13:44:47 GMT -6
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Post by reevo on Dec 17, 2018 13:44:47 GMT -6
well it forces you to use Gunn more which is a double sided sword.. If he gets hot his threes can help.. Problem is for every three he makes he gives up 2 cause he can not play a lick of D His threes can help if no one guarding him. Very true. I am quite sure the scouting report is out on him. He is going to have to show he can put the ball on the floor and score off of the drive. Teams are going to start denying him the ball.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 17, 2018 13:46:07 GMT -6
The truth of the matter is we don’t really have depth. You get into the bench and it’s flawed. Gunn can score if he’s open but offers nothing else. Ish, pretty much same thing. Thompson gives great effort and can guard a little bit, but...Nehls, forget it. Huggins, forget it.
Hazen was honestly pretty much it. We’re looking at a pretty big drop off if we have to rely on the bench too much or too often. Gunn can put some points up but if he gives up just as many it’s not really helping that much in a tight game when you need stops.
This was supposed to be a big year for us. Not sure we can get very far if we don’t get good consistent production from the bench. I like our starting 5 a lot, but then what? Sometimes it seems like whit puts on the floor either combinations of zero scorers, or zero ball handlers. His rotations can be strange but he goes by his data/process pretty often and maybe not by feel when he needs to.
Bottom line, I hope we have the year I thought we could, but I’m not as confident with our depth so thin. Gotta wonder if he’ll consider pulling Coleman’s redshirt.
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Post by sweep on Dec 17, 2018 14:47:56 GMT -6
Tonight's game comes down to turnovers and foul trouble. Valpo heads to Texas A&M on Wednesday, so they are going to want this game tonight.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 15:18:16 GMT -6
Post by thebsukid on Dec 17, 2018 15:18:16 GMT -6
Vegas says pick em
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 17, 2018 15:38:15 GMT -6
I like transfers. I like the redshirting in the right situation. I understand occasionally rolling the dice on a project.
But injuries are a fact of life. How many teams go through a whole year with no significant time missed by their top 6 or 7 players?
So if you're going to play the transfer/redshirt/project game, you can't afford the rose-colored glasses view of your projects. You just don't have the spots to burn.
Not that anyone on this board takes the rose-colored glasses view of any projects.
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Post by universityjim on Dec 17, 2018 15:46:53 GMT -6
I'd be putting Huggy Bear in for a couple minutes here and there. At the very least he is worth 5 fouls.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 17, 2018 16:04:51 GMT -6
yes play the manbunagator
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 17:12:30 GMT -6
Post by thebsukid on Dec 17, 2018 17:12:30 GMT -6
I agree with the General, but I think Huggins can provide 4-5 minutes per game now and I think Gunn has played better defensively as of late albeit I agree he's strictly a spot up shooter....he needs to put it on the deck a few times which will change a bit how he's played.
At one time didn't someone say he couldn't shoot?
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 17:24:30 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Dec 17, 2018 17:24:30 GMT -6
I agree with the General, but I think Huggins can provide 4-5 minutes per game now and I think Gunn has played better defensively as of late albeit I agree he's strictly a spot up shooter....he needs to put it on the deck a few times which will change a bit how he's played. At one time didn't someone say he couldn't shoot? Really, so in your bizarro world a small forward who doesn't create and can only hit wide open jumpers is a good shooter. This is Division I basketball, not a junior high CYO league. Freaking guys who play the five position can step out and hit wide open threes. If you take out the game vs. D-2 Tiffin he is 11-26 at 42% for the season, good nothing to get all excited about.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 17:33:34 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 17, 2018 17:33:34 GMT -6
I believe that in the star press, the coach said this injury will hurt our depth. But if you lose one player, do you really go from a deep team, to a team without depth? (Unless of course that player is a star.) We were deep up front at forward. When Gunn gets less than 10 minutes that is true enough. But now we need him playing 20+ maybe more. Hurts. Ish playing well is the key to good depth. Josh and Ish behind two players who probably each play close to 30 minutes us decent depth. We were always thin at center relying on depth at forward, so Hazen really really hurts.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 17:34:50 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 17, 2018 17:34:50 GMT -6
I agree with the General, but I think Huggins can provide 4-5 minutes per game now and I think Gunn has played better defensively as of late albeit I agree he's strictly a spot up shooter....he needs to put it on the deck a few times which will change a bit how he's played. At one time didn't someone say he couldn't shoot? Really, so in your bizarro world a small forward who doesn't create and can only hit wide open jumpers is a good shooter. This is Division I basketball, not a junior high CYO league. Freaking guys who play the five position can step out and hit wide open threes. If second guy on bench at forward he was fine. Now he has to step up his game.
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Hazen
Dec 17, 2018 22:26:04 GMT -6
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Post by lmills72 on Dec 17, 2018 22:26:04 GMT -6
Depth as it relates to endurance/fatigue shouldn't be a factor for us. No front-line player played more than 29 minutes tonight. If they can't handle playing 35 minutes a game, we've got issues. And if everyone remembers, we did play some of our best ball in MAC play last year after the stupidity of Walker and Tyler shortened our bench and forced Whitford to give his top players more time.
Depth as it relates to quality does take blow. And I'm sure there'll be the occasional game where fouls become an issue.
But overall, depth will be a poor excuse if this team fails.
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