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Post by 00hmh on May 4, 2020 14:09:30 GMT -6
So far early media reports have been far more accurate a forecast of events than the White House, especially the early White House.
You didn't answer the question. If they were so biased how come they were much more accurate? Did they cover the news people were interested in? Yes. Was it political bias?
If their reports were exaggerated due to bias, why would they be more accurate than the guy we count on to be trusted in the White House?
The news media can be sometimes biased. The facts are on the record what they reported, usually from expert sources, and appear to be accurate.
I take it your theory is that scientists are so stupid as to be biased against the government when so much funding depends on the administration. If anything the influence might be expected to be that science would have curried favor with the stable genius whose uncle was very talented in science, so he must be.(and therefore his opinion equal to the real scientists....)
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Post by 00hmh on May 4, 2020 14:15:48 GMT -6
It's one thing to not play up things when you have made a mistake but the guy doubles down and tries to make mistake into a narrative of flawless decision making. Very similar to autocratic despotic dictators who control the press and can silence critics completely and substitute by government fiat, myth and fake history. Every president has made mistakes. Name one that admitted it. Was that what I said? Quoted above it does not seem to be the point.
What about that doubling down on it? Repeating it and claiming the mistake as success? Denying it occurred when it is on video? What about systematic attempts to punish those who disagree?
This is the behavior in Russia, or China, or North Korea, or tin pot dictators in South America who control the press and long ago dissolved any democratically elected legislature that might thwart them.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 4, 2020 16:00:07 GMT -6
"What about systematic attempts to punish those who disagree?
This is the behavior in Russia, or China, or North Korea, or tin pot dictators in South America who control the press and long ago dissolved any democratically elected legislature that might thwart them. "
This is a really good example of how ridiculous a person's thinking can get when they get their information for media sources who are deliberately trying to enflame their prejudices and stupidities.
Do you even have the slightest conception of the sorts of repression that occurred/occurs in the countries you name?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on May 5, 2020 5:51:49 GMT -6
It took 3 lengthy responses for, "Nuh-UHHH!!!"
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Post by 00hmh on May 5, 2020 7:06:06 GMT -6
It took 3 lengthy responses for, "Nuh-UHHH!!!" "Nuh-UHHH!!!"
You spitball 3 or 4 opinions without fact or theory in support, well other than conspiracy theory. I take a little time to respond to each.
Given much of what you write is vague and unable to be tested by fact and given that you have been dead wrong so often where you have made any substantive measurable prediction, I suppose it's a little frustrating.
So, I can understand you saying that that is all you hear. Still, even though you ignore any supporting arguments or facts you don't want to hear, you could at least take the first line of each and respond if you actually had an answer.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on May 5, 2020 13:00:34 GMT -6
I've been dead wrong?
You always cover your bases with "maybes" and "possiblys".
Everything is a gray area with you, except for your hatred of Trump.
Good luck with that for the next 4 years. Because Biden.
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Post by 00hmh on May 5, 2020 13:43:35 GMT -6
You have made a lot of statements about this pandemic where the science was dead against you, and in where what actually happened proved it.
I won't apologize for saying "maybe" when things are not clear.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 5, 2020 14:21:35 GMT -6
"What about systematic attempts to punish those who disagree?
This is the behavior in Russia, or China, or North Korea, or tin pot dictators in South America who control the press and long ago dissolved any democratically elected legislature that might thwart them. "
Do me a favor. Describe what you believe is the absolute WORST instance of Trump's "systematic attempts to punish those who disagree". Go back and Google through whatever media and internet sources it is that you parrot, if need be.
Because I want to laugh at how ludicrously exaggerated your comparison is with the repressive dictatorships you mentioned.
This is a good example of what passes for political thought these days. People choose to live in an echo chamber populated by others with the same skewed partisan outlook, then they work each other's panties into a huge wad, until they twist themselves into the most ridiculously extreme, perspective-free positions, which they will then spout in public with total confidence and absolutely no suspicion of how stupid it makes them look. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on May 6, 2020 7:17:40 GMT -6
"What about systematic attempts to punish those who disagree?
This is the behavior in Russia, or China, or North Korea, or tin pot dictators in South America who control the press and long ago dissolved any democratically elected legislature that might thwart them. "
Do me a favor. Describe what you believe is the absolute WORST instance of Trump's "systematic attempts to punish those who disagree". Go back and Google through whatever media and internet sources it is that you parrot, if need be.
He hurt their feelings. That's the exact same thing as North Korea, China, and Iran are doing.  Has anyone seen Jim Acosta lately? |
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Post by williamtsherman on May 6, 2020 7:56:36 GMT -6
Maybe he's realized that the sort of hysterical, hair-on-fire statements that meet with unquestioned approval in his echo chamber actually sound really ludicrous in the real world.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 6, 2020 12:09:02 GMT -6
Delaware county released today that for the first time since this started they did not report any new cases of covid.. out of the 20 deaths in the county 13 were from nursing homes over the age of 78. Now I did me best quarantine but with kids I probably had to go out to grocery stores and gas Stations etc more than most. When I did most people were not social distancing and to be honest some trips the those stores seemed busier than a non covid grocery/snack run. The past couple weekends I have heard there were waiting lines to get into lowes/menards.
Im not sure what or if this means anything but no new cases is always a good thing
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Post by cardfan on May 6, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -6
The cases will pick up again with the “great reopening”.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 6, 2020 12:29:13 GMT -6
The cases will pick up again with the “great reopening”. I do not see anyway this does not happen |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on May 6, 2020 12:45:21 GMT -6
Of course there will be more cases. Although with everything that's being done, it shouldn't be a huge spike like the alarmists are saying.
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Post by 00hmh on May 6, 2020 14:44:27 GMT -6
Looking at the County is not terribly relevant when considering that 15-20K immigrants are headed this way in September. Indiana totals are more an indicator.
The Indiana figures for new cases or deaths always lag reality. So we will probably expect to see any impact of the reopening only after 3 or 4 weeks. What we do know is that Indiana cases have not been on the decline for 14 days which is the announced criterion for starting to reopen. This is puzzling. The governor is assuming that cases are on the decline when the data seems inconclusive on this. Deaths and cases have at best leveled, and the shape of the curve would predict that we have a week or so at least before decline. Instead we are reopening when the number of infectious individuals may be now higher than or as high as it was when we closed down. That is weird logic. The prediction would be continuing rise. |
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