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Post by chirpchirpcards on May 30, 2020 19:49:37 GMT -6
Including Ft Wayne and downtown Indianapolis. This is likely to get worse before it gets better in most of these cities
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Post by 00hmh on May 30, 2020 20:11:49 GMT -6
Yes. You are right. All the pent up energy from lock down plus the Minnie police officer.
There are troublemakers in those crowds who cannot be distinguished from peaceful protestors. Some I am sure are just interested in looting, some just interested in making the protest look bad or turn it bad. Some just troublemakers who are taking advantage of the cover of a large crowd. Very ugly all around. Police have to keep cool.
This is like Rodney King, a little. Actually a death here, but the officer not nearly so egregious in his behavior .
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Post by chirpchirpcards on May 30, 2020 20:19:19 GMT -6
And downtown Indianapolis is now literally a dumpster fire! I shouldn't find that funny, but dumpster fires are always hilarious to me!
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 30, 2020 21:10:08 GMT -6
Its not even about Peaceful Protest anymore.. That is just an excuse at this point
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 30, 2020 21:39:42 GMT -6
When did the media forget the word “riot”?
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Post by chirpchirpcards on May 30, 2020 22:01:46 GMT -6
When did the media forget the word “riot”? Every outlet I've watched tonight, both local and national, has called it "Protests turned to riots", so none of them forgot the word from what I've heard. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on May 31, 2020 5:46:42 GMT -6
When did the media forget the word “riot”? Every outlet I've watched tonight, both local and national, has called it "Protests turned to riots", so none of them forgot the word from what I've heard. That’s good. The first night every article I saw said protests. I started doing word searches for the word riot and the only reference I found was to police in riot gear. I watched some chanel 8 coverage and did not see or hear the word riot as far as I know. |
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Post by williamtsherman on May 31, 2020 9:20:58 GMT -6
I'm not clear why Colin Kaepernick is bailing out white supremacist Russian agents from out of state
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Post by 00hmh on May 31, 2020 12:24:56 GMT -6
I'm not clear why Colin Kaepernick is bailing out white supremacist Russian agents from out of state Hard to separate wheat from chaff?
Besides the President has reassured him that there are no Russians interested in fomenting civil unrest in the USA.
If only those Black protestors were exercising 2nd Amendment rights and all packing AK 47 around their shoulders we wouldn't have those Russians in our peaceful protests.
Everyone knows that would be safe. Some wonderful people have been identified by the President who follow that protocol. Such peaceful protestors rarely have any trouble with the police or pesky extremists in the black civil rights movement.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 31, 2020 13:17:01 GMT -6
Sorry. I'm not fluent in incoherentese
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Post by chirpchirpcards on May 31, 2020 16:57:53 GMT -6
Every outlet I've watched tonight, both local and national, has called it "Protests turned to riots", so none of them forgot the word from what I've heard. That’s good. The first night every article I saw said protests. I started doing word searches for the word riot and the only reference I found was to police in riot gear. I watched some chanel 8 coverage and did not see or hear the word riot as far as I know. The Indy Star has finally started calling them "riots". This is the first article I've seen from them using the proper verbiage for what happened the last two nights. |
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Post by williamtsherman on May 31, 2020 18:08:52 GMT -6
Pretending the riots were "protests" is the old thing now. That was becoming too obviously stupid even for the left and the media The new thing is to pin the riots on a mysterious and diabolical right wing force. Granted, that's also pretty stupid but there aren't a lot of good options here. It's not like they can be honest about left wing politicians allowing a bunch of left wing idiots to burn down cities
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Post by 00hmh on May 31, 2020 19:30:26 GMT -6
I doubt anyone thinks looting and rioting is in any way excused.
That people protested I hope everyone understands.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jun 1, 2020 7:21:40 GMT -6
I support every American's right to protest any injustice they see. But then it seems to often turn into looting, setting fires, destroying business, and attacking motorists, which makes that protest invalid.
Once looting starts, or people start being attacked, then it needs be clamped down, hard. I don't care if looters get shot by small business owners. I don't care if a few miscreants get killed if they attack a car with innocent people in it.
Police and National Guard have a duty to protect people and property.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 1, 2020 9:46:42 GMT -6
Finding exactly the right level of force in response is really tricky. There are protests where the best police action is to simply contain the protest and put up with relatively minor civil disobedience. There is protest that ends up turning into riot. Very hard to tell which you have on your hands in advance.
When the situation turns into looting and out of control riot, the scale of the threat to any individual business makes it dubious to recommend store owners firing into the crowd. At the point your business is threatened by a mob, you can't handle it.
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