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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 16:29:19 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 16:38:38 GMT -6
Male pants? They don't have their own pants? WTF is that about?
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 16:43:28 GMT -6
These are not Trump voters who are burning looting and taking over areas of cities. Nor are they republican officials who are unable/unwilling to restore order We aren't talking about looters here, and the "taking over" part is not exactly "totally unrestrained" as you represent it to be.
The Trump voters are not all villains nor are they all noble, nonviolent and law abiding.
My argument with you was about this strange Seattle incident, which I do not profess to understand, but do not see as "totally unrestrained" either.
In this case, there is a real practical police problem about how to "restore order." If Bill Lee isn't careful we may see strict law and order be very hard to enforce and the cost benefit equation of that action may not look better than the Seattle answer, whatever that will be.
Given that in Minneapolis over 1500 buildings were burned, looted, vandalized or otherwise damaged, it would appear that being a total appeasing pussy is maybe not the best policy for a governor/mayor to adopt |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 17:46:04 GMT -6
The police in Seattle have found no evidence of businesses being extorted. Business organizations are indicating they’ve received no reports of extortion. It’s a right wing talking point that has yet to be officially substantiated. No documented reports. I'm sure, Herman, you are like me and would have no problem with "Warlord Raz" and his friends taking over YOUR neighborhood and setting up barricades around it and keeping police and other responders out. The biggest problem I would have with it is reading all those stupid right wing talking points about the situation. We would sleep very well at night knowing that Raz was in charge and responsible for the well-being of ourselves, our loved ones, and our property. After all, I'm sure that guy has gained awesome expertise on how to run a society with the hours of left wing internet and social media study he's done from his parents basement. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and let him do as he likes in Seattle and hopefully other places soon following the example. |
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Post by cardfan on Jun 12, 2020 19:59:40 GMT -6
Don’t twist it too much. I think the whole warlord thing is ridiculous and needs to be ended. It seems to me that it’ll eventually play itself out. But if misinformation is part of the reasoning for a physical confrontation then that’s not good either. That businesses were being extorted has never been substantiated, so statements saying they ARE doing that are not valid. Yet certain media kept reporting it as fact anyway. I was only questioning that particular narrative.
Now, if this Raz character could bring us a Mac championship I’d welcome him to campus....
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 20:35:28 GMT -6
How bad do things have to be before a takeover of an area is contested? Would you be good with a takeover of your neighborhood as long as no cases of extortion were verified? Is anyone allowed to do a takeover, or just certain approved groups?
The Seattle chief of police has stated they aren't being allowed to respond to 911 rape and robbery calls. The Seattle chief of police is a black woman. So there. That means you can't deny what she says, you know
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 20:46:44 GMT -6
Ok Ive been advised that I can not call my new country bsufans or over the pylon.. So Ive decided on "robtopia" I have also decided to not take over the stuffy alum center.. Instead "robtopia" will be centered around frogbaby.. You can still join.. I need another Warlord, Gardner, some muscle and a waterboy. If you join now I will consider you a founding member of "robtopia" Im working on my recruitment flyer right now
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 20:54:32 GMT -6
Do you have your own pants in Robtopia, or will you need donations?
I have some pretty relevant warlord experience, but I'm not interested in joining if you're running around pantsless with your junk on display. Also need to know the Robtopia stance on the bsu basketball coaching position, and the colts using the 6th overall pick on an OG
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 21:08:15 GMT -6
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Post by cardfan on Jun 12, 2020 21:21:17 GMT -6
Ok Ive been advised that I can not call my new country bsufans or over the pylon.. So Ive decided on "robtopia" I have also decided to not take over the stuffy alum center.. Instead "robtopia" will be centered around frogbaby.. You can still join.. I need another Warlord, Gardner, some muscle and a waterboy. If you join now I will consider you a founding member of "robtopia" Im working on my recruitment flyer right now I just need to know about food. What are your plans for food? And I don’t mean a garden. I mean, FOOD. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 21:26:23 GMT -6
Ive got it covered Hot Dog's and beer
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Post by cardfan on Jun 12, 2020 21:39:38 GMT -6
Ive got it covered Hot Dog's and beer I’m in. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 21:43:45 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 21:43:50 GMT -6
How bad do things have to be before a takeover of an area is contested? Would you be good with a takeover of your neighborhood as long as no cases of extortion were verified? Is anyone allowed to do a takeover, or just certain approved groups? Surely nobody says the takeover, however temporary is "allowed" by law. It is clearly illegal. The question is much more what to do about his particular takeover.
What will return things to normal with the least economic and social cost? If this group was burning the neighborhood to the ground and looting it would be a different case. If quelling this uprising was going to mean no danger of death or injury to property and to a large number of people it would be different.
This like any hostage situation is not handled best by storming the location with guns blazing. Only as a last resort. Why act that way where the hostage is in little danger?
The Chinese government followed the path of strength and overwhelming force as they declared martial law and responded to Tiananmen-square demonstrations. Those protests were also clearly illegal and involved a threat to public property. We have to find a better way than that. It is tough practical policing problem. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 21:54:49 GMT -6
Ok Ive been advised that I can not call my new country bsufans or over the pylon.. So Ive decided on "robtopia" I have also decided to not take over the stuffy alum center.. Instead "robtopia" will be centered around frogbaby.. You can still join.. I need another Warlord, Gardner, some muscle and a waterboy. If you join now I will consider you a founding member of "robtopia" Im working on my recruitment flyer right now Can I be secretary of state? I will issue daily communiques that are baffling and frustrating to the authorities which everyone in Robtopia are used to ignoring. I have no idea what our demands are which only means I foresee endless negotiation while we enjoy the good weather.
If cardfan has a key to the library it will help. That is a great place to nap in the afternoon. There is also food and drink or refrigeration in the food court, and good sight lines if we see the campus cops approaching frog baby.
We may want to consider use of the naked lady in the lobby rather than the ridiculous frog baby as a symbol of the uprising and centerpiece. Although both have some merit.
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