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Post by cardfan on Jun 12, 2020 9:39:19 GMT -6
“We’ve heard, anecdotally, reports of citizens and businesses being asked to pay a fee to operate within this area. This is the crime of extortion. If anyone has been subjected to this, we need them to call 911,” Assistant Chief of Police Deanna Nollette said on Wednesday. Go find the Thursday reports that say they’ve not been able to substantiate the “anecdotal” reports. In fact, per Business Insider, on Thursday the Chief of Police said, “we haven’t had any formal reports of this occurring.” Per the Seattle Times yesterday, “no police reports filed about use of weapons to extort Capital Hill businesses.” Again, per the chief of police. But a lot of poetry has definitely been read. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Jun 12, 2020 10:03:27 GMT -6
Secession is legitimate but must follow the appropriate process. Don't conflate what these people are doing with secession. You might want to stay out of the South. Why? |
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 10:11:02 GMT -6
This is not secession. More a case study in the folly of secession if it is.
Nor is it the South. Hardly a case of seceding to preserve slavery. A perverse property right.
What it is I do not know.
Reports of extortion or personal threats of violence seem greatly exaggerated or fictional.
There is potential for it getting ugly. Let's hope cool heads rule.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 11:51:56 GMT -6
It's an interesting precedent. Maybe politicians all over the country should allow their political allies to take over various geographical areas. I can't think of any problems that might arise, as long as...you know... cooler heads prevail
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 12:03:58 GMT -6
It's an interesting precedent. Maybe politicians all over the country should allow their political allies to take over various geographical areas. I can't think of any problems that might arise, as long as...you know... cooler heads prevail Hopefully we won't have many cases where a week of protests nationwide and national attention on events that led to them motivates people to push the envelope to this extent. All on top of everyone suffering from COVID cabin fever.
If this was business as usual this odd event would not likely have occurred.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 12:36:49 GMT -6
Yes the left as thrown off all restraint lately, but they are not the only ones with grievances
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 13:07:50 GMT -6
Yes the left as thrown off all restraint lately, but they are not the only ones with grievances All restraints?
Yeah that protest opposite the WH was really violent and unrestrained.
This event doesn't exactly seem unrestrained to me for that matter. At least so far.
The "armed" uprising has had fewer people hurt than have angry shoppers confronting store owners who asked them to wear a mask as part of the store policy. People have been shot...
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 13:50:43 GMT -6
These are not Trump voters who are burning looting and taking over areas of cities. Nor are they republican officials who are unable/unwilling to restore order
If it was...can you imagine?....the media would be hysterically portraying it as worse than all other bad things in history put together
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 14:48:44 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 14:49:37 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 14:50:53 GMT -6
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 15:09:40 GMT -6
So it looks like a group in TN is going to try and start another Zone this evening. Its not going to go well there
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 12, 2020 15:11:16 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 12, 2020 15:29:46 GMT -6
They may find that Bill Lee is not the sort of craven, mush-head dipshit politician they are dealing with in Seattle and Minneapolis. Further, I don't think Bill Lee will lose any elections in TN by straightening their shit out.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2020 15:59:01 GMT -6
These are not Trump voters who are burning looting and taking over areas of cities. Nor are they republican officials who are unable/unwilling to restore order We aren't talking about looters here, and the "taking over" part is not exactly "totally unrestrained" as you represent it to be.
The Trump voters are not all villains nor are they all noble, nonviolent and law abiding.
My argument with you was about this strange Seattle incident, which I do not profess to understand, but do not see as "totally unrestrained" either.
In this case, there is a real practical police problem about how to "restore order." If Bill Lee isn't careful we may see strict law and order be very hard to enforce and the cost benefit equation of that action may not look better than the Seattle answer, whatever that will be.
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