|
|
Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 22, 2020 8:21:24 GMT -6
Look, here's what it comes down to:
I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I wasn't sure what he would do. And no, I haven't agreed with everything he's done. I would like to see him be more civil, and tweet less.
But, he has made every effort to do what he promised. My taxes went down significantly. He upset the status quo. He's been able to appoint 2, soon to be 3, very good SC justices. He cracked down on China infringing on copyrights/patents, made trade deals that are better for the US, created a better business environment that helped my 401k double, and has been tough on Iran.
Biden was a part of the Obama legacy that saw my taxes go up. Was weak on international relations. Fucked up my insurance. He's been in Washington for almost 50 years, and NOW he's going to fix everything? What the hell has he been doing?
Trump is far from a perfect president or candidate, but he gives me more of what I want than Biden.
Not only will I vote for Trump this time, I've put a sign in my front yard. I've never done that before, but I think that a Biden presidency would be a disaster. And I honestly don't think he'll live through a first term, he's just too old (and to be completely honest, I think Trump is too old, but that's what we've got). And the thought of Harris as the prez just makes me want to puke.
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 8:53:26 GMT -6
But, he has made every effort to do what he promised. My taxes went down significantly You don't see that brag very much in the Trump campaign for good reason.
If that is so you are probably talking about business taxes. Corporate entities did get very large savings.
For the individual to say a gain was significant means you either have modest income with modest gain (say $100 or $200) or have pretty high income, or perhaps did not give to charity or use other deductions that you no longer have replaced by a new standard deduction. The average tax cut for all taxpayers was less than $100. People under 100K got a relatively small benefit, some of which expires after next year. Those individual taxpayers 100-200K pay more taxes generally or the same, and the bulk of tax savings is for those well above 200K.
The tax cuts really did not fuel economic expansion or jobs nearly as much as expected, if at all, since many individuals who saved substantial amounts invested tax savings in a portfolio including international holdings, high tech, and NOT in US labor intensive investments. Corporations have amassed cash and bought back stock or bought labor saving equipment that reduced employment. Far more than they used tax savings to increase employment.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 22, 2020 9:09:15 GMT -6
It must be exhausting to be as wrong as you are on a consistent basis.
My income falls in the 100k-200k range, and with a small business. My taxes were 1200 less, not an insignificant amount, with no major changes to income or expenses.
Try again.
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 9:22:45 GMT -6
Look, here's what it comes down to: Trump is far from a perfect president or candidate, but he gives me more of what I want than Biden. Not only will I vote for Trump this time, I've put a sign in my front yard. I've never done that before, but I think that a Biden presidency would be a disaster. I cannot criticize being active politically and supporting your beliefs.
And there is no way to argue his meeting the needs of the religious right, except that much of what will happen is not what the majority in America want. The trade deals are not going to prove to be a plus. Some like the new NAFTA is not much change. Dissolving international markets is not working for many.
Certainly no doubt about his shaking things up. Unfortunately much of that is chaotic and undisciplined action which will have cost more than offsetting benefits.
Other critical issues which to me are equally or more important have been bungled. Apart from trade, and international teamwork, health care, infrastructure, real immigration reform have not been dealt with.
The biggest issue I have with Trump is that government is much less well run now than it was 4 years ago by any management metric.
A surgical and careful reorganization was something that could have been possible, and beneficial, but that is not the Trump management style, it requires attention to detail and careful review of actions before taken. The man has no talent for managing a very large and complex enterprise, his business was essentially family business.
Much could have been done with a good team, that is always desirable and necessary, but change at the top has to involve bringing in highly competent people and managing the change well. In the business world, aggressive corporate reforms involving wholesale cuts without careful management have a spotty record at best.
The Trump team is becoming a joke as he fires his own great leaders, fails to appoint a large number leaving agencies rudderless, puts people in charge of areas where they literally have no knowledge, and we see constant turnover as we find they cannot work with the WH. That is not good shake up. Nor is it cleaning a swamp to break down the dam to indiscriminately empty one end of it and dump sewage in the other end.
The President and his team were remarkably inept handling his greatest challenges in public health and health care. Immigration restriction, abandoning free trade, and abandoning long time alliances with partners around the world shake things up but are abandoning long time GOP government structures which actually worked well.
The SC actions I would say were spoils of war, except for the Garland nomination being blocked while this year a Justice is being rushed through. I believe ee will see a lot of trouble if the original intent school of jurisprudence carries out radical changes. I hope the Court can see that this is no 1792. Because I certainly don't see the Congress able to redesign government and replace what we have seen evolve over 200+ years with many experiments and many compromises creating a structure that is perhaps not nearly what we want but better than all the alternatives we see.
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 9:30:00 GMT -6
It must be exhausting to be as wrong as you are on a consistent basis. My income falls in the 100k-200k range, and with a small business. My taxes were 1200 less, not an insignificant amount, with no major changes to income or expenses. I am not wrong. That you earned $100 a month, is good news, and while "not insignificant" to you is not much of a brag if you are compared to what those earning higher amounts gained and especially in what the the top 1% gained. And not typical in that income bracket. For those who are wage earners in that bracket taxes did generally go up slightly as they lost deductions.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 22, 2020 9:44:22 GMT -6
What's telling is that you haven't said anything good about Biden, only what's wrong with Trump.
|
|
|
|
Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2020 10:39:35 GMT -6
Biden commanded hefty speaking fees, up to 200K, in the years after he was VP until he hit the campaign trail this last year, and had a book deal for 8 million dollars. Biden's asking fee for speaking may indeed be in the $150,000 to $200,000 range, but the truth is he hasn't given that many; something less than 50 over the past decade. This $13 million was just for the 2017 and 2018 years which probably were pretty lean years for selling influence. Just like donations to the Clinton Foundation decreased dramatically once they had nothing to sell anymore. Anyone purchasing influence then was banking on Joe getting back into politics. It would be interesting to see what he ranked in during 2008 to 2016. |
|
|
|
Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2020 10:46:24 GMT -6
That he formed an S-Corp is not sinister, and that form is not exempt from maintaining books and records. The Corporation has the obligation and is subject to regulation to enable pass through to shareholders. Dividends, distributions, wages are subject to IRS standards and the corporate charter. You probably don't want to see the irony here. Joe help set-up the S-Corp concept and other business tax dodges (ever wonder why so many corporation incorporate in the State of Delaware) and then he uses it to avoid taxes and launder his ill-gotten gains. Then he derides Trump for using tax loopholes not created by Trump to reduce his tax burden. Joe is the bank robber who loots the bank, while Trump is the guy who picks-up a $20 laying on the sidewalk. |
|
|
|
Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2020 10:51:29 GMT -6
Former Hunter Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski has confirmed that an email published in the New York Post's bombshell exposé is indeed genuine - something the Biden camp hasn't disputed, and that the "Big Guy" described in one of those emails is none other than Joe Biden himself. Bobulinski also says Joe Biden was lying when he said he and Hunter never discussed business dealings.
Probably worth re-printing the entire Bobulinski statement, so here it is.
"My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.
I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.
If the media and big tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family’s name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.
After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.
What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.
Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.
I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.
I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant — and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.
I don’t have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.
God Bless America!!!!"
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 10:59:42 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 11:06:09 GMT -6
That he formed an S-Corp is not sinister, and that form is not exempt from maintaining books and records. The Corporation has the obligation and is subject to regulation to enable pass through to shareholders. Dividends, distributions, wages are subject to IRS standards and the corporate charter. You probably don't want to see the irony here. Joe help set-up the S-Corp concept and other business tax dodges (ever wonder why so many corporation incorporate in the State of Delaware) and then he uses it to avoid taxes and launder his ill-gotten gains. Then he derides Trump for using tax loopholes not created by Trump to reduce his tax burden. Joe is the bank robber who loots the bank, while Trump is the guy who picks-up a $20 laying on the sidewalk. An S corp is not a sign of corruption and it sure looks like his tax dodging is nowhere close Trump. Do you see how much tax he paid? Delaware has nothing all that special in it's corporate law concerning S corps. An S corp is a regular corporation which meets Federal tax regs defining eligibility to pass income through without corporate federal tax. Delaware has a number of corporate law advantages making it a favorite for legitimate businesses to incorporate there. Which do think are out of the ordinary in this case? |
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 11:16:18 GMT -6
Guys, I understand that as long as you can debate Hunter Biden you don't have to talk about the issues on which most people will vote, or have voted. Bad news Barrack spoke tonight and raised issues. You may have been riveted by FOX where it didn't happen, living in that reality where the important concern is Hunter Biden.....I just don't think that issue and others should have been ignored in your news diet. Good old deflection. Read the speech. How is actually raising issues deflection? |
|
|
|
Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 22, 2020 11:51:52 GMT -6
I'm talking about YOUR deflection.
|
|
|
|
Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 12:37:21 GMT -6
Deflecting? From what?
This election ought not suddenly be the Hunter Biden story. To try to make it that is the deflection.
Hunter won't be in the WH making policy, if Joe elected. Won't be there at all if he stays involved in lobbying.
Biden businesses will be in blind trust. Financial disclosure will be complete.
Do you think Trump would make the same pledge?
Is he willing to disclose his financial dealings? I doubt it, and pushing on this may rebound on him if he chooses the route of exploring family finance.
Could be better for him than dying on the real issues, I suppose...
|
|
|
|
Post by villagepub on Oct 22, 2020 13:22:20 GMT -6
Deflecting? From what? This election ought not suddenly be the Hunter Biden story. To try to make it that is the deflection. Hunter won't be in the WH making policy, if Joe elected. Won't be there at all if he stays involved in lobbying. Biden businesses will be in blind trust. Financial disclosure will be complete. Do you think Trump would make the same pledge? Is he willing to disclose his financial dealings? I doubt it, and pushing on this may rebound on him if he chooses the route of exploring family finance. Could be better for him than dying on the real issues, I suppose... Biden has been a lying, plagiarizing, "ass kisser for a buck" for 47 years. He hasn't authored a significant piece of legislature during his whole career. He's a car salesman, with no backbone. The Hunter Biden story just brings his underperforming, panhandling career to a head. I prefer substance over style. Biden is all style, no substance. Trump is no style and but at least delivers. Trump did not get my vote in 2016, but with the options available to the public this time around, you have to go with him. |
|
