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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 22, 2020 14:08:28 GMT -6
Deflecting? From what? This election ought not suddenly be the Hunter Biden story. To try to make it that is the deflection. Hunter won't be in the WH making policy, if Joe elected. Won't be there at all if he stays involved in lobbying. Biden businesses will be in blind trust. Financial disclosure will be complete. Do you think Trump would make the same pledge? Is he willing to disclose his financial dealings? I doubt it, and pushing on this may rebound on him if he chooses the route of exploring family finance. Could be better for him than dying on the real issues, I suppose... It's not about Hunter. It's about Joe's influence on Hunter's behalf, and Joe's profiting from it. You deny it, but there's a whole lotta smoke. You deflect by all of your "Yeah, but Trump..." ramblings.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2020 14:19:39 GMT -6
This Forbes article just doesn't quite add up. It's from 2019 yet estimates Joe Biden's net worth at only $9 million, $4 million in his 2 houses. From the previous article, his two S-Corps yielded $13 million in 2017 and 2018 alone. You cite a $8 million dollar book deal. He's got to have more somewhere. Maybe he's a "gold bug" and has been stashing gold bars in his cellar? I also couldn't help but notice you responded to 2 out of 3 of my posts. The one you didn't respond to was the Bobulinski post. Maybe you realize that there's no defense of Joe Biden's activities related to that one?
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 16:40:43 GMT -6
Net worth would include real estate appreciation, other investment appreciation.
My 401K appreciated by far more than income for example.
No income until cashed in.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 16:42:52 GMT -6
Deflecting? From what? This election ought not suddenly be the Hunter Biden story. To try to make it that is the deflection. Hunter won't be in the WH making policy, if Joe elected. Won't be there at all if he stays involved in lobbying. Biden businesses will be in blind trust. Financial disclosure will be complete. Do you think Trump would make the same pledge? Is he willing to disclose his financial dealings? I doubt it, and pushing on this may rebound on him if he chooses the route of exploring family finance. Could be better for him than dying on the real issues, I suppose... It's not about Hunter. It's about Joe's influence on Hunter's behalf, and Joe's profiting from it. You deny it, but there's a whole lotta smoke. You deflect by all of your "Yeah, but Trump..." ramblings. There is no evidence at all of that influence being offered or exercised. As I say above.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 16:45:01 GMT -6
Deflecting? From what? This election ought not suddenly be the Hunter Biden story. To try to make it that is the deflection. Hunter won't be in the WH making policy, if Joe elected. Won't be there at all if he stays involved in lobbying. Biden businesses will be in blind trust. Financial disclosure will be complete. Do you think Trump would make the same pledge? Is he willing to disclose his financial dealings? I doubt it, and pushing on this may rebound on him if he chooses the route of exploring family finance. Could be better for him than dying on the real issues, I suppose... Biden has been a lying, plagiarizing, "ass kisser for a buck" for 47 years. He hasn't authored a significant piece of legislature during his whole career. He's a car salesman, with no backbone. The Hunter Biden story just brings his underperforming, panhandling career to a head. I prefer substance over style. Biden is all style, no substance. Trump is no style and but at least delivers. Trump did not get my vote in 2016, but with the options available to the public this time around, you have to go with him. You can say that. Cannot support it very well...
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 22, 2020 17:37:45 GMT -6
Are you guys really trying to decide which politician is more corrupt?
Isn't that like trying to decide which body builder is using more steroids, or which cyclist is doping? Gee, did Mark McGwire or Sammy Sosa use more performance enhancing drugs?
Get over it. Accept that they're all corrupt. Make your voting decision on some other facet of the campaign.
Maybe there just should be a special counsel appointed to determine which has the biggest penis. Wait a minute, that would include a measurement. And a specific measurement could be construed as falling within the realm of "science." Well shit ...
One the other hand, it would give new meaning to the statement "Trump/Biden wins by a head."
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 18:09:54 GMT -6
I do think we accept a certain amount of human flaw in anyone. Not that all are equally flawed, and there are no limits..
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 22, 2020 18:51:48 GMT -6
Bobulinski has turned over all his electronic devices containing emails, SMS, etc. documenting his interactions with the Bidens. This is going to be really, really interesting!
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 22, 2020 20:49:34 GMT -6
I really do not care for either guy and I am really not into politics but after watching the debate I would say Trump won that round. Explain to me why Im wrong but please give me the cliff notes version.. Ive been drinking this evening
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 22, 2020 21:24:10 GMT -6
Beat low expectations.
Split decision.
Sleepy not bad. No sign of senility.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 22, 2020 21:43:29 GMT -6
Best expectations. Split decision. Biden not bad. No sign of senility. Coming from you thats basically agreeing with me that trump won tonight.. I agree though Biden was coherent this evening
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 22, 2020 21:50:50 GMT -6
I think Trump won tonight but I still think Biden wins the election. I feel like neither really flipped anyone. I guess Trump might have won back some voters like me who voted for him last time but were questioning it this time around
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 23, 2020 6:38:31 GMT -6
I think if people were on the fence and looking for a reason to vote for Trump, they got it last night. And I think going forward, if he's re-elected, you'll get that type of performance on maybe 150 days of his next term. It's what's going to happen on the other 1,300 days of that term that I would worry about.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Oct 23, 2020 6:50:33 GMT -6
Biden forgot they were talking about China at one point. Stumbled around on many occasions. May be attributed to his stuttering (which would explain a lot), but it's still a bad look for a world leader.
I thought Trump let Joe off easy on the laptop deal, but still got in a few digs which flustered Joe a bit.
Joe relied on "Come on" too much, which is what people say when they don't have a cogent response. His frustration with Trump doesn't help him if he wants to be seen as a uniter, able to work with both sides of the aisle.
Joe's response about not getting anything done in his 8 years, about having a Republican Congress was a complete lie; he had 2 years of a Democrat-controlled House AND Senate.
Biden did better on the COVID segment, but Trump defended himself pretty well.
The moderator interrupted Trump far more than Biden, although Trump kept trying to respond to everything Biden said.
Biden hammered Trump on his taxes, which I think scores well for Joe for people that don't understand business.
If this were a boxing match, I'd say a split decision for Trump.
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Post by villagepub on Oct 23, 2020 7:26:53 GMT -6
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