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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2021 13:59:17 GMT -6
My son's middle school is sending kids home at an alarming rate.. Only 11 positive out of about 800 kids but contact tracing is wiping out big numbers. Half his math class got wiped out today. 28 kids on class yesterday 14 sent home today
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 13, 2021 14:23:21 GMT -6
My son's middle school is sending kids home at an alarming rate.. Only 11 positive out of about 800 kids but contact tracing is wiping out big numbers. Half his math class got wiped out today. 28 kids on class yesterday 14 sent home today Yeah, in the long run the desire to get back to normal was probably wishful thinking without the not normal of a mask mandate or vax requirement. We end up with less in person class. The Burris 1st grade is now shut down and on quarantine. BSU has not (yet) said classes can go virtual and two parents in that class with both working at BSU are in a bind unable to stay home and take care of kids.
Parents can't get a test in some cases. Pediatrician is scheduling testing out a week...Delaware County testing is cut way back or shut down in places. We are pretending it is normal.
Everyone wanted to avoid remote learning and wanted normal, and that's maybe impossible.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 13, 2021 14:26:07 GMT -6
They just gave me a Covid shot. I'll let you know if I start puking or anything. Might be more health information than we want in that case.
The good news is if you are in the hospital for something else, vaccination is the least problem you have!
Hang in there. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2021 17:07:53 GMT -6
My son's middle school is sending kids home at an alarming rate.. Only 11 positive out of about 800 kids but contact tracing is wiping out big numbers. Half his math class got wiped out today. 28 kids on class yesterday 14 sent home today Yeah, in the long run the desire to get back to normal was probably wishful thinking without the not normal of a mask mandate or vax requirement. We end up with less in person class. The Burris 1st grade is now shut down and on quarantine. BSU has not (yet) said classes can go virtual and two parents in that class with both working at BSU are in a bind unable to stay home and take care of kids.
Parents can't get a test in some cases. Pediatrician is scheduling testing out a week...Delaware County testing is cut way back or shut down in places. We are pretending it is normal.
Everyone wanted to avoid remote learning and wanted normal, and that's maybe impossible.
update his last class of the day was down to 9 kids |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2021 17:11:58 GMT -6
It's a shit show when it comes to school. E learning was a disaster kids did not learn.. Test scores down across the nation. Kids need to be in school to learn properly. It might work at a college but it does not elem mid and highschool
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 13, 2021 17:46:20 GMT -6
Let's hope this is the surge and Vax picks up and we're more normal in 6 weeks.
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Post by bsutrack on Aug 13, 2021 20:50:00 GMT -6
As sad as it might be, they made an informed choice about the vaccine and decided not to get it. In a free society, you give people information and allow them to make up their own minds. It sounds like Calhoun's friend made a bad decision that hopefully he lives to regret. Joe Biden's open border policy has facilitated the import of illegal drugs... This is not just a problem for Calhoun's friend. The issue is also the harm to others. The obvious harm is the extended care and greater cost for ICU treatment for the patient, that is true. You totally miss that when hospitals are slammed it means health care for all reasons for others is now limited.
It is also not just the person who "chooses" freely to risk illness who is hurt even when he wins the bet for himself and is asymptomatic. If the person not vaccinated passes along a disease it impacts others, with a multiplier of the costs for everyone as a result.
Do you have a clue what 2 to 3 million illegals per year are doing to our health care system? I have news for you, they don't come with their own health care insurance. They don't bring their own doctors and medical supplies with them. In addition to being treated for Covid, they expect the US health care system to care for all their needs at the US tax payers' expense. They clog up our hospital emergency rooms, strain our hospital resources, drain resources that could be used for actual US citizens. |
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Post by bsutrack on Aug 13, 2021 21:10:18 GMT -6
See the link above about the Nevada parent who sent his kids to school Covid positive, knew it. 80 kids who had no choice or knowledge of the risk had to take the it, may have been hurt, not just one.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there have been 337 pediatric COVID-19 related deaths since the pandemic began; approximately an 18 month period. Some 192 pediatric deaths associated with influenza were reported during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. www.masslive.com/news/2020/10/cdc-near-record-number-of-children-died-from-flu-during-2019-2020-season.htmlAdd in the last 6 months of the 2018-19 flu season and you probably have about the same number of deaths as the 337 due to Covid. How many of these kids got the flu from other children at school? Probably quite a few. How many years over the past 2 decades do you think they should have shutdown the educational system for influenza? |
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Post by bsutrack on Aug 13, 2021 21:19:11 GMT -6
However. Are you really sure about this remote threat of overdose health care being one? Surely there are better ways to fight that problem than poring money into border wars, today with very unlikely short term impact on health care compared to Covid which is a crisis right now. That's another debate anyway. Stick to this one.
Border Wars? What the heck are you talking about? Are you suggesting we invade Mexico to stop the flood of illegals? Biden just needs to control the borders of the country like Trump was. Complete the construction of the border wall. Walls work. Go back to the stay in Mexico policy until your application for entry into the United States is approved. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 13, 2021 21:49:19 GMT -6
Not sure where you get your numbers or what assumptions you make. I doubt the numbers you project. See: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/But assuming your unlikely projection is true, let's look at few things that make it less scary. Especially with regard to health care: Our population is in decline. And aging. That means: 1.The health care system will be losing older people requiring more expensive care and adding younger people requiring less care. That makes things a bit less worrisome. 2. Adding young workers willing to take jobs most Americans will not take should produce some offsetting plusses. Workers added are good. Especially as the boomer generation leaves the workforce. Adding young families who we can educate can be an engine of growth. Demographic projections factoring in immigration forecast continued population decline. The problem was faced a few decades ago by Japan which had very strict immigration control and regretted it. That's probably more our problem today, not too many immigrants So even if you are right it's not all bad news. Long term we need better immigration policy. We agree. But you are sidetracking the discussion about the Covid health care crisis which crisis and expense short term is about Americans who are not vaccinated, not recent immigrants. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2021 21:54:38 GMT -6
I told you last year all kinds of parents were sending kids yo school with at least covid systems. I know at least 3 different families where the parents had covid kids had symptoms but were never tested but went to school on the hush hush. When calling kids off school for sickness parents were told to say they needed a mental health day.. If you said anything else you were probably quarantined
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 14, 2021 7:25:04 GMT -6
Tough on parents working with kids, but we ought to be smarter this year.
BSU has their plan which isn't bad if they can get a high percentage vaccinated. College students may respond better than the general pop when it's really easy to do on campus.
Grade schools don't have that option yet and of course vaccine hesitancy probably a bigger problem since parents are politicized, and vaccination a mild hassle to arrange.
Better than having kids sick at home or quarantined though.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2021 8:23:29 GMT -6
As a parent of a 9 and 11 year old the vaccine for that age group is a problem/concern for me. For myself I don't care about what long term implications may pop up years from now for me. This may never happen but we don't know. I'd there does end up being an issue though our kids will have to deal with it their whole lives
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Post by halftime on Aug 14, 2021 8:35:44 GMT -6
Tough on parents working with kids, but we ought to be smarter this year. BSU has their plan which isn't bad if they can get a high percentage vaccinated. College students may respond better than the general pop when it's really easy to do on campus. Grade schools don't have that option yet and of course vaccine hesitancy probably a bigger problem since parents are politicized, and vaccination a mild hassle to arrange. Better than having kids sick at home or quarantined though. Look people may have vaccine hesitancy but I doubt much if any of it has to do with politics. Get off it already. |
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 14, 2021 10:16:33 GMT -6
Tough on parents working with kids, but we ought to be smarter this year. Grade schools don't have that option yet and of course vaccine hesitancy probably a bigger problem since parents are politicized, and vaccination a mild hassle to arrange. Look people may have vaccine hesitancy but I doubt much if any of it has to do with politics. Get off it already. That is a remarkable statement. If you said it was not ONLY politics, I would agree.
But, saying not much is political?
The campaign's biggest issue was Covid. That has carried over. We still see GOP leaders downplaying the danger of Covid and the danger of vaccines. NO Congressional or blue state leaders I have seen.
Media is politicized, I think you would agree. Media sources reflect the division and contribute to it. Clearly FOX news has prominently featured vaccine skepticism with big audience conservative politically. More liberal media stresses the dangers of the virus. That has to have an influence.
Forget media sources, if you say that is just biased opinion and some how say nobody is ever influenced by it. Look at the political public policy. It's a Biden priority to vaccinate. It is definitely not a priority in red states.
Look at tangible facts. How do we explain red states with significantly lower vaccination? How do we explain vaccine policies differing in red states? How do we explain red state governors and legislative opposition to masking and vaccination?
Not much politics? C'mon.
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