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Post by 00hmh on Dec 4, 2022 20:21:54 GMT -6
Brown is a remarkable player to this forum for a number of reasons. If the breadth of your interests is not wide enough to encompass any of these, you should just STFU and avoid this thread. A very easy thing to do. He is, after all, the best player to ever grace ECI hoops... We're lucky to have been touched by greatness of his talent and that of Desmond as well. How could we not recognize those players and continue to follow them?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 5, 2022 7:29:41 GMT -6
If the breadth of your interests is not wide enough to encompass any of these, you should just STFU and avoid this thread. A very easy thing to do. Just like the football forum.
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Post by purplecats on Dec 18, 2022 19:26:58 GMT -6
Watched Stetson v Ohio.. that was ugly. Blackmon with 21 but Brown had 2 assists in 21 minutes abs didn't add anything else to the scorebook. Seems like he is really up and down
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Post by CallingBS on Dec 18, 2022 19:46:49 GMT -6
Watched Stetson v Ohio.. that was ugly. Blackmon with 21 but Brown had 2 assists in 21 minutes abs didn't add anything else to the scorebook. Seems like he is really up and down I think you mean mostly down.
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Post by coastalcard on Dec 18, 2022 20:03:33 GMT -6
Were those first two games (27, 20) a fluke? Is he still recovering from injury? Seems like he is getting minutes but not taking shots.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 18, 2022 20:19:22 GMT -6
Were those first two games (27, 20) a fluke? Is he still recovering from injury? Seems like he is getting minutes but not taking shots. they did not realize you had to guard him as soon as he crossed half court. If you don’t guard him he can score a hundred. Since then then everyone just puts a big guard on him and he can’t get an easy shot unless there is a breakdown same as here
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Post by redbirdman on Dec 18, 2022 22:38:12 GMT -6
What I don't understand is why if he starts & plays half the game he is not shooting? If your right he can't get shots then he should be on the bench. If you start him it has to be because of his 3 pt shooting so set some screens & let him shoot. At least he is not a BSU problem.
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Post by loganberrie on Dec 19, 2022 9:42:12 GMT -6
Coach Donnie Jones is extremely unpredictable as a coach. He starts a different line up every games and his offense is geared towards 1 on 1 play creating your own shot. Brown needs to come off screens or utilize pick and rolls to get his shots. The past few games he’s only taking 3-4 shots a game. He’s playing the 2 guard and the ball is not in his hands enough for him really be effective. On a positive note, Jalen Blackman from Marion HS is beginning to play well. He and Brown alternate at the 2 guard.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 19, 2022 11:06:25 GMT -6
Coach Donnie Jones is extremely unpredictable as a coach. He starts a different line up every games and his offense is geared towards 1 on 1 play creating your own shot. Brown needs to come off screens or utilize pick and rolls to get his shots. The past few games he’s only taking 3-4 shots a game. He’s playing the 2 guard and the ball is not in his hands enough for him really be effective. On a positive note, Jalen Blackman from Marion HS is beginning to play well. He and Brown alternate at the 2 guard. No one in college basketball is going to run the get Luke Brown shots as their primary offense. Thats what he needs to get multiple good shots every game. Bigger guards can guard him close because they dont fear him beating them off the dribble so they get in his grill and he cant shoot.
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 19, 2022 12:23:31 GMT -6
Coach Donnie Jones is extremely unpredictable as a coach. He starts a different line up every games and his offense is geared towards 1 on 1 play creating your own shot. Brown needs to come off screens or utilize pick and rolls to get his shots. The past few games he’s only taking 3-4 shots a game. He’s playing the 2 guard and the ball is not in his hands enough for him really be effective. On a positive note, Jalen Blackman from Marion HS is beginning to play well. He and Brown alternate at the 2 guard. No one in college basketball is going to run the get Luke Brown shots as their primary offense. Thats what he needs to get multiple good shots every game. Bigger guards can guard him close because they dont fear him beating them off the dribble so they get in his grill and he cant shoot. I do not agree with loganberrie about it, but if the best chance for him was having the ball a lot it would have been BSU last year in our "no pass" P&R offense. His having the ball didn't work so well in the P&R, though, because they could pressure him and force him to pass before he could utilize the ball screen, and because as you say, he was not really a threat to drive if they just concentrated on letting him take that option.
Second best chance may have been Lewis who definitely knew how to screen for dead eye shooters. But he has to tenaciously defend to get on the court. It's clear guards have to move the ball with the pass, quickly. If Luke could defend as well as Bumb, we are seeing how that system lets Bumb have a role and also to be open. (he is not taking that shot) I suspect there will be games where he takes more shots, but not the primary focus at all.
Luke would have a green light more than Bumb from greater range if as wide open. But he is not a great defender and we really have no idea if he can use screens or not, he's always played with ball in his hands.
He declined an opportunity to play for Lewis which says volumes on both counts.
We have repeatedly discussed that it was never likely he could live up to his dreams of college success, and it looks like Stetson experience is proving that again.
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Post by prestonp on Dec 19, 2022 17:23:49 GMT -6
Coach Donnie Jones is extremely unpredictable as a coach. He starts a different line up every games and his offense is geared towards 1 on 1 play creating your own shot. Brown needs to come off screens or utilize pick and rolls to get his shots. The past few games he’s only taking 3-4 shots a game. He’s playing the 2 guard and the ball is not in his hands enough for him really be effective. On a positive note, Jalen Blackman from Marion HS is beginning to play well. He and Brown alternate at the 2 guard. No one in college basketball is going to run the get Luke Brown shots as their primary offense. Thats what he needs to get multiple good shots every game. Bigger guards can guard him close because they dont fear him beating them off the dribble so they get in his grill and he cant shoot. This most likely is why he did not get many serious D1 looks.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 19, 2022 21:52:53 GMT -6
He is with out a doubt one of the best shooters I’ve ever seen but that’s not enough. I also think that he might not be that strong mentally meaning Shit gets in is head and he can’t flush it
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Post by coastalcard on Dec 19, 2022 22:09:18 GMT -6
Stetson has signed him twice. The second time with the benefit of seeing actual video from D1 games. I guess the Stetson coach must have assumed Whit didn't use him properly …….or he was strong-armed by a Mad Hatter alum 🤷♂️
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 19, 2022 22:17:01 GMT -6
Stetson has signed him twice. The second time with the benefit of seeing actual video from D1 games. I guess the Stetson coach must have assumed Whit didn't use him properly …….or he was strong-armed by a Mad Hatter alum 🤷♂️ so you have noticed a rather odd number of blackford influence on Stetson as well. Thought I was the only one who caught that
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 19, 2022 22:44:34 GMT -6
Stetson has signed him twice. The second time with the benefit of seeing actual video from D1 games. I guess the Stetson coach must have assumed Whit didn't use him properly …….or he was strong-armed by a Mad Hatter alum 🤷♂️ Or bet he was injured or had no time to develop. Could adjust and compensate for obvious weaknesses. I doubt his judgment was that Luke would be a star.
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