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Post by sweep on Mar 4, 2022 9:29:31 GMT -6
Not sure how Trump is my man, I didn't even vote for him. I post criticism of the guy , his wall, his pandemic denial and incompetence, his policy dismantling NATO, his protectionist trade policy, his response to racial conflict and support for white supremacists, and so on, ......................
You don't criticize, you just post bizarre mostly disproven theories and looney half-truths, and never offer proof of anything. Seriously look at that crap you just posted. Trump denied the pandemic and was incompetent in his reaction ? He endorsed the dismantling of NATO, when did he do that ? Which retaliatory protectionist trade policy was unwarranted and a failure ? What support of white supremacists ? You just blather incoherent nonsense and expect people to believe it. Is Trump an asshole, yes. However policy wise he was a pretty effective president. Unlike say Joe Biden, who is almost entirely a cluster f of ineptitude. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 4, 2022 10:45:08 GMT -6
I post criticism of the guy , his wall, his pandemic denial and incompetence, his policy dismantling NATO, his protectionist trade policy, his response to racial conflict and support for white supremacists, and so on, ......................
You don't criticize, you just post bizarre mostly disproven theories and looney half-truths, and never offer proof of anything. Seriously look at that crap you just posted. Trump denied the pandemic and was incompetent in his reaction ? He endorsed the dismantling of NATO, when did he do that ? Which retaliatory protectionist trade policy was unwarranted and a failure ? What support of white supremacists ? Is Trump an asshole, yes. Except for that last part, you are really out there. Talk about lack of proof?
If you really want to reopen those debates, give some support!
1. Trump consistently denied the severity of the pandemic and downplayed it. If you want to quibble about the word "denied" that is weak rebuttal. He opposed masks and other mitigation and his party has adopted anti-vax as an article of faith. That his lack of leadership of a national response was less than competent cost him the election and the question is more how incompetent he was than anything else.
2. On NATO, Trump's version of isolationism was clear. Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton published a memoir in 2020 that described Trump as repeatedly saying he wanted to quit the alliance, saying at one point, “I don’t give a s--- about NATO.” Bolton said he had to convince Trump not to quit NATO in the middle of a 2018 summit.
Trump’s former chief of staff John F. Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general, was also described as saying that “one of the most difficult tasks he faced with Trump was trying to stop him from pulling out of NATO.”
3. Trump has consistently favored protectionism and disfavored open markets. He has opposed open trade even with our allies, threatening a trade war with Germany and the EU.
Econ 101 shows it can help one industry but invariably hurts consumers with higher prices and then hurts otherindusties when there is a retaliatory response. In a very few cases, usually for national defense interest, tariffs can preserve a vital domestic industry and could be sensible, but it has not been good policy or overall worked well.
You ask what was a failure? To imply it has always worked well is very strange. Where's that "proof" you say you favor?
4. Trump is supported by white nationalists, does not reject that support, and in the debate in 2020 refused to condemn white supremacy. A day or two later then backpedaled and did so, wink, wink. That he considers many to be "good people" and many other statements may not be "endorsement" but the word I used was "support" which is totally fair. That Trump supporters spoke recently before the White Nationalist PAC and he hasn't said a word shows his comfort in having that group in his "big tent."
5. Although you chose not to mention it, perhaps you should return to your defense of an impenetrable wall on the border and Trump immigration policy to bolster your defense of Trump's policy acumen.
You now bluster about lack of proof, but you don't want to talk about anything in detail, just tag along on bsutrack's conpsiracy theories mainly. I predict your next post is just a return to name calling. Show me I am wrong.
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Post by sweep on Mar 4, 2022 10:55:52 GMT -6
You don't criticize, you just post bizarre mostly disproven theories and looney half-truths, and never offer proof of anything. Seriously look at that crap you just posted. Trump denied the pandemic and was incompetent in his reaction ? He endorsed the dismantling of NATO, when did he do that ? Which retaliatory protectionist trade policy was unwarranted and a failure ? What support of white supremacists ? Is Trump an asshole, yes. Except for that last part, you are really out there. Talk about lack of proof?
If you really want to reopen those debates, give some support!
1. Trump consistently denied the severity of the pandemic and downplayed it. If you want to quibble about the word "denied" that is weak rebuttal. He opposed masks and other mitigation and his party has adopted anti-vax as an article of faith. That his lack of leadership of a national response was less than competent cost him the election and the question is more how incompetent he was than anything else.
2. On NATO, Trump's version of isolationism was clear. Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton published a memoir in 2020 that described Trump as repeatedly saying he wanted to quit the alliance, saying at one point, “I don’t give a s--- about NATO.” Bolton said he had to convince Trump not to quit NATO in the middle of a 2018 summit.
Trump’s former chief of staff John F. Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general, was also described as saying that “one of the most difficult tasks he faced with Trump was trying to stop him from pulling out of NATO.”
3. Trump has consistently favored protectionism and disfavored open markets. He has opposed open trade even with our allies, threatening a trade war with Germany and the EU.
Econ 101 shows it can help one industry but invariably hurts consumers with higher prices and then hurts otherindusties when there is a retaliatory response. In a very few cases, usually for national defense interest, tariffs can preserve a vital domestic industry and could be sensible, but it has not been good policy or overall worked well.
You ask what was a failure? To imply it has always worked well is very strange. Where's that "proof" you say you favor?
4. Trump is supported by white nationalists, does not reject that support, and in the debate in 2020 refused to condemn white supremacy. A day or two later then backpedaled and did so, wink, wink. That he considers many to be "good people" and many other statements may not be "endorsement" but the word I used was "support" which is totally fair. That Trump supporters spoke recently before the White Nationalist PAC and he hasn't said a word shows his comfort in having that group in his "big tent."
5. Although you chose not to mention it, perhaps you should return to your defense of an impenetrable wall on the border and Trump immigration policy to bolster your defense of Trump's policy acumen.
You now bluster about lack of proof, but you don't want to talk about anything in detail, just tag along on bsutrack's conpsiracy theories mainly. I predict your next post is just a return to name calling. Show me I am wrong.
Well you have once again effectively moved the goal posts on every single allegation in your original post. Congrats..................Grow-up little boy. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 4, 2022 12:22:03 GMT -6
You complain about lack of proof? Vagueness? Ask questions?
But then?
Reject more specifics? Reject support for statements made? Ignore answer to your question?
You just have no answer.
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Post by sweep on Mar 4, 2022 14:37:22 GMT -6
Reject more specifics? Reject support for statements made? Ignore answer to your question? Reject............Ignore.............How could I ?............I didn't read any of that gibberish, and I find it hilarious you probably spent at least an hour on that post. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 4, 2022 19:45:42 GMT -6
Reject more specifics? Reject support for statements made? Ignore answer to your question? Reject............Ignore.............How could I ?............I didn't read any of that gibberish, and I find it hilarious you probably spent at least an hour on that post. Nah, I can produce that as fast as you hunt and peck your mindless responses. I have been thinking, arguing and writing for a living most of my life. No big deal.
Might be a slight waste of time anyway, but that goes with any fan forum.
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 5, 2022 15:59:45 GMT -6
What a joke. Putin knows first hand how impossible it is to leave that region without losses. He may celebrate any misfortune for the US, but that had little to do with this. You support Trump who vowed to dismantle NATO, gave Putin most of what he wanted, including weakening Ukraine, withholding military help. Why would Putin invade, Trump was giving him what he wanted. You and other Trump toadies even now fawn over Putin's genius in the run up to this. If America is weak it's the internal politics like that which weaken America and encouraged him. What do you think Biden should have done earlier? I heard no GOP proposals related to this. Trump claims it would never have happened, probably right, he would be carrying out his agenda of appeasement. That seems your answer. Fortunately many GOP stalwarts do not agree. Countries like Germany relying on the US taxpayer providing the funds for Europe's protection. Guess you don't have a problem with a nation with $30 trillion in debt printing money and causing increased inflation to pay for someone else's defense, but I do. Trump wanted every European nation in NATO to spend at least 2% of their GDP to military spending. Any threats about pulling out of NATO was in response to nations like Germany refusing to spend the required amount. Funny how Germany just this week has now pledged to increase their spending on the military to 2%. Biden had all fall and winter to send the Ukrainians military equipment. Trump would have. The shipments of Javelin anti-tank launchers and missiles and Stinger missiles that are now being sent should have been sent back in September, October, November, and December 2021. In addition, Harpoon anti-ship missiles and A10 Warthog planes should have been sent and the Ukrainians given time to train on using them. I truly believe Trump would have done so. The fact you can't deny is Putin never attacked the Ukraine during the Trump Presidency. He took the Crimea in 2014 when Obama-Biden was in charge. Didn't do anything during Trump Presidency and now is after the rest of Ukraine since Biden is back. What's your explanation for this inconvenient fact? Trump appeasement? That's bullshit. Trump's military killed over 200 Russians in Syria. www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.htmlThe Joe Biden Administration would never had the guts to do something like that! Heck, the Biden Administration is afraid to give the Ukrainians real time intelligence now for fear of offending the Russians. Real time intelligence from the US military right now could greatly help the Ukrainian military if the Biden Administration had the guts to do it. Elections have consequences. Little did 10,000's of Ukrainians realize the election of Joe Biden in 2020 would mean their deaths at the hands of the Russians.
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 5, 2022 20:25:02 GMT -6
What a joke. Putin knows first hand how impossible it is to leave that region without losses. He may celebrate any misfortune for the US, but that had little to do with this. Let's go through point by point how the Biden Administration screwed-up the Afghanistan withdrawal. 1) You don't pull your military out of the country before all of your citizens and green card holders are out. The Biden Administration did it backwards. There were still about 1,000 US citizens, 1,000's of Green Card holders, interpreters and folks who had fought for the US left in Afghanistan when the last US soldier was out. What they ended-up evacuating were whoever happened to get to the airport in Kabul. Just haphazardly loading onto the evacuation planes whoever was fortunate enough to get to the airport and past checkpoints. 2) They never should have abandoned Bagram Air Force Base until the very end, if then. The evacuation should have been conducted from Bagram. It was about 25 miles outside the city of Kabul. It was defensible while the Kabul commercial airport from which the evacuation was conducted from was not. This resulted in 13 American servicemen being killed. Add insult to injury, the suicide bomber who killed those 13 Americans was a prisoner released from the Bagram prison after the Americans pulled out of the base. 3) Once the Taliban started breaking their end of the agreement (which they did as early as April, 2021), you ditched the entire pullout. Early in the Trump Administration, he wanted to get the US out of Syria. However, in time his generals convinced Trump to stay as the situation on the ground changed. See, Trump listened to his generals. Biden on the other hand fails to take advice. His generals told him to keep Bagram until the end. He refused to listen. Once Putin so how incompetent the Biden Administration was in Afghanistan, he realized they would never be able to arm the Ukrainians in time to stop his invasion and he was right. Our military under Biden is too Woke to fight any war. They are more interested in teaching Critical Race Theory and chasing down imaginary white supremacists than conduct military operations. |
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 5, 2022 20:37:36 GMT -6
4. Trump is supported by white nationalists, does not reject that support, and in the debate in 2020 refused to condemn white supremacy. A day or two later then backpedaled and did so, wink, wink. That he considers many to be "good people" and many other statements may not be "endorsement" but the word I used was "support" which is totally fair. That Trump supporters spoke recently before the White Nationalist PAC and he hasn't said a word shows his comfort in having that group in his "big tent."
I get so sick of you Liberals playing the Race Card. Trump did more for non-Whites than Obama and Biden combined. Black unemployment under the Trump policies was much lower than it was under Obama. His criminal reform under the First Step Act was something Obama failed to do. www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/12/18/18140973/state-of-the-union-trump-first-step-act-criminal-justice-reformThe hate your kind attempt to generate between races is disgusting. Do you really think it's worth the few votes it gets the Democratic Party each election? I do not. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Mar 6, 2022 2:39:11 GMT -6
4. Trump is supported by white nationalists, does not reject that support, and in the debate in 2020 refused to condemn white supremacy. A day or two later then backpedaled and did so, wink, wink. That he considers many to be "good people" and many other statements may not be "endorsement" but the word I used was "support" which is totally fair. That Trump supporters spoke recently before the White Nationalist PAC and he hasn't said a word shows his comfort in having that group in his "big tent."
I get so sick of you Liberals playing the Race Card. Trump did more for non-Whites than Obama and Biden combined. Black unemployment under the Trump policies was much lower than it was under Obama. His criminal reform under the First Step Act was something Obama failed to do. www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/12/18/18140973/state-of-the-union-trump-first-step-act-criminal-justice-reformThe hate your kind attempt to generate between races is disgusting. Do you really think it's worth the few votes it gets the Democratic Party each election? I do not.When the only limits on government power 00 recognizes is what he personally finds reasonable or unreasonable it really raises the stakes. I had a Bernie supporter tell me Bernie was going to get the money out of politics and I told him as long as Bernie wanted to increase the scope and power of the federal government there would only be more people vying with their money to pull those levers. |
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 26, 2022 0:26:32 GMT -6
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 26, 2022 16:56:51 GMT -6
Another foot in mouth moment by our President, Joe Biden. After earlier in he week, answering a question about what the US would do if Russia used chemical weapons in Ukraine; Biden's response being: "we would respond in kind". The Administration had to send Joe Sullivan out to explain the US wouldn't really be ready to use chemical weapons on Russians in the Ukraine. Then there was the meeting with US troops in Poland when he told them about their going soon to Ukraine to join the fighting there. But then on Saturday came the trifecta when he wondered off script. Apparently didn't read from the teleprompter and said regime change was the answer to the Putin problem in Russia. www.foxnews.com/politics/putin-regime-change-biden-remarks-expertSo now a paranoid ruler of the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in world has one more point of evidence that America is out to kill him. Biden pushing the world one step closer to nuclear annihilation.I remember some idiot on this board used to claim once Biden took charge and the real adults were in the room, everything would be so much better than under Trump. Hope that idiot has a well stocked nuclear bomb shelter available. Somebody needs to shut Biden up before he gets us all killed. |
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Post by prestonp on Mar 26, 2022 18:27:40 GMT -6
Agree that President Biden should make all comments crystal clear, but that misspeak was corrected quickly. Despite your disdain for Biden, he has united NATO. I seriously doubt that the Seditionist-In-Chief would ever have made his butt buddy Putin angry by doing that.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2022 20:21:45 GMT -6
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 26, 2022 22:31:21 GMT -6
Agree that President Biden should make all comments crystal clear, but that misspeak was corrected quickly. Despite your disdain for Biden, he has united NATO. I seriously doubt that the Seditionist-In-Chief would ever have made his butt buddy Putin angry by doing that. Zelensky has united NATO, not Joe Dementia. Joe's Woke military advisors thought the Ukraine would fall within 72 hours. One of the reasons they didn't bother to send the Ukrainians the military aid last fall and winter they needed before the invasion began. The invasion didn't happen under Trump because Trump was too unpredictable. In all honesty, I would worry if this was all going down with Trump in the White House. But the stuff that bubbles out of Joe's mouth is far worse. How Joe handled the withdrawal from Afghanistan (there are still American citizens and Green Card holders trapped there) was the green light for Putin to invade Ukraine. |
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