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Post by thebsukid on Mar 15, 2022 10:16:38 GMT -6
Above guys all played I believe and I believe Terry is a highly rated assistant.
Because no one has yet given Terry a shot is in my mind no reason not to go with him. I don’t know but since he was at Butler it’s possible Beth may know him?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 15, 2022 10:42:20 GMT -6
There are a lot of possibilities but I would list my top 3 as follows: 1. Terry Johnson- currently Assistant at Purdue with stops at Ohio State where I believe he was involved in 3 NCAA tournaments, also was at Butler under Brad Stevens. He played at Lamar, and I believe played HS in Anderson. Midwest ties and African American. Has a history of winning! 2. Matt Langel, Colgate Head Coach, 3 x NCAA’s would have been 4 without Covid with Assistant experience at Temple. Played at Penn in Ivy League, First team Ivy League. 3. Ben McCollum, D II Coach, 3 time National Champion, Northwest Missouri State, 7 time MIAA coach of the year, young only 40. I have no inside knowledge but I would take any of these 3 in a heartbeat. I think 2 or 3 would be fine. 1 seems to be the same old mold. Why has no one given this guy a chance.. There has to be a reason |
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Post by sweep on Mar 15, 2022 10:52:22 GMT -6
There are a lot of possibilities but I would list my top 3 as follows: 1. Terry Johnson- currently Assistant at Purdue with stops at Ohio State where I believe he was involved in 3 NCAA tournaments, also was at Butler under Brad Stevens. He played at Lamar, and I believe played HS in Anderson. Midwest ties and African American. Has a history of winning! 2. Matt Langel, Colgate Head Coach, 3 x NCAA’s would have been 4 without Covid with Assistant experience at Temple. Played at Penn in Ivy League, First team Ivy League. 3. Ben McCollum, D II Coach, 3 time National Champion, Northwest Missouri State, 7 time MIAA coach of the year, young only 40. I have no inside knowledge but I would take any of these 3 in a heartbeat. I think 2 or 3 would be fine. 1 seems to be the same old mold. Why has no one given this guy a chance.. There has to be a reason I don't know Matt Painter and Scott Drew were both assistant coaches for 10 years. I didn't look it up, but I think Mike Brey was an assistant for 15 years before being hired at Delaware. |
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Post by nazcard on Mar 15, 2022 11:42:27 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 15, 2022 11:46:34 GMT -6
I get your point but Johnson has been under at least 3 very good HC’s including Brad Steven’s and Matt Painter plus whomever was Coach at Ohio State. Owens only worked under Painter and at SIU whereas Johnson worked under 3 major league coaches.
Also, at Ohio State, Johnson was the Defensive Coach and at Purdue he is the offensive Coach! In my view, he would be well rounded given his experiences with some top coaches and having had responsibility for both sides of the ball.
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Post by sweep on Mar 15, 2022 11:58:54 GMT -6
Honestly, I think Terry Johnson is just a name some twitter guy threw out there. I don't see any indication there is a mutual interest.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 15, 2022 11:58:57 GMT -6
all true points
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 15, 2022 12:00:26 GMT -6
Agree Sweep but I suspect he would be on the list!
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 15, 2022 12:00:56 GMT -6
Well, I for one am just ecstatic we get to have this discussion. Call me gun shy of our former model of hiring a P5 assistant under various programs. Schools always list that as some huge resume thing when in reality it means much less. Whitford was an underling for almost two decades with some very successful HC's and programs yet did not possess the key qualities (recruiter, networker, motivator, leader) to succeed. I like the McCollom option as a proven winner and leader.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 15, 2022 12:13:53 GMT -6
I just listed those #3 as my initial favorites given some limited research but I believe there are many qualified candidates out there including some HC’s at the JC level.
I just hope the process is pretty quick as we don’t want to lose any of our soon to be Sophomores.
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Post by reevo on Mar 15, 2022 13:16:46 GMT -6
Don't know much about Johnson. My concern is that he has been an assistant for an awfully long time and has never been considered for an Associate Head Coaching gig. Not saying that he is not good at what he does, it just strikes me as concerning that someone with his experience has only been the number 3 or 4 guy on the bench wherever he has gone.
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Post by sweep on Mar 15, 2022 13:48:43 GMT -6
Don't know much about Johnson. My concern is that he has been an assistant for an awfully long time and has never been considered for an Associate Head Coaching gig. Not saying that he is not good at what he does, it just strikes me as concerning that someone with his experience has only been the number 3 or 4 guy on the bench wherever he has gone. Associate Head Coaches spend a lot of time dealing with player issues and administrative crap the head coach doesn't like doing. Whitford was an associate head coach and he is a horrible x's and 0's guy. I don't think Holtmann utilizes an Associate Head Coach and I know Stevens didn't. I am not sure that means anything. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Mar 15, 2022 13:57:57 GMT -6
Been looking at Dwayne Stephens at MSU. Top recruiter and player developer. He's been there a while, not sure that we could lure him here. He might be Izzo's replacement when he retires.
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Post by sweep on Mar 15, 2022 14:04:26 GMT -6
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Post by reevo on Mar 15, 2022 14:07:24 GMT -6
Don't know much about Johnson. My concern is that he has been an assistant for an awfully long time and has never been considered for an Associate Head Coaching gig. Not saying that he is not good at what he does, it just strikes me as concerning that someone with his experience has only been the number 3 or 4 guy on the bench wherever he has gone. Associate Head Coaches spend a lot of time dealing with player issues and administrative crap the head coach doesn't like doing. Whitford was an associate head coach and he is a horrible x's and 0's guy. I don't think Holtmann utilizes an Associate Head Coach and I know Stevens didn't. I am not sure that means anything. Don’t disagree other than associates are typically groomed to be head coaches. The guy I wanted took the Illinois State Job, Ryan Pedon. |
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