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Post by prestonp on Oct 29, 2022 20:07:55 GMT -6
What are the odds that Coleman finishes the season? Still looks slow on D and IMO still shows a tude.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 29, 2022 20:32:30 GMT -6
What are the odds that Coleman finishes the season? Still looks slow on D and IMO still shows a tude. All that being said he or sparks are the v best players on team. Lewis not going to have a choice but to play Coleman |
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Depauw
Oct 29, 2022 20:49:09 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 29, 2022 20:49:09 GMT -6
What are the odds that Coleman finishes the season? Still looks slow on D and IMO still shows a tude. I just don't see the big problem, agree with Calhoun. The attitude is there, not the big problem it was though. An issue ther he didn't shoot well outside, made a couple of circus plays, but that's a smaller issue. He didn't take bad shots, scored 1 on 1, had the ball a lot without a big turnover issue, moved it under control with both pass and dribble. His 1 on 1 play was pretty well judged not the toxic variety we sometimes saw in the past. On defense we switched everything a lot to stay out on their shooters, I didn't see him as real quick either but he did move his feet and stayed after it and changed their shot with his length if he got beat. Should not be guarding a quick opposing player that often. I wanted to see Owens White who will help there as will Sellers. |
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Depauw
Oct 29, 2022 20:55:31 GMT -6
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Post by coastalcard on Oct 29, 2022 20:55:31 GMT -6
So…..playing Bumb reduced minutes (18) didn't positively affect his shooting? 🤔
I’m shocked.
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Post by bsutrack on Oct 29, 2022 21:01:06 GMT -6
Rob meant HE was hit in the head ….. I was trying to watch and quickly post for you guys. Damn Sparks was hit in the head he did not return Hendrix came into the game in one possession he Blocked 2 shots played some D got the steal started the break and Took the return pass for a monster dunk It was Hendricks signature moment it may never happen again Damn, since it wasn't televised, does that mean it wasn't captured on film? Those of us who couldn't attend the game will never see it? |
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Depauw
Oct 29, 2022 21:08:03 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 29, 2022 21:08:03 GMT -6
So…..playing Bumb reduced minutes (18) didn't positively affect his shooting? 🤔 I’m shocked. More a case of his shooting affecting his minutes because we can do without it? That and getting switched to guarding their Pillsbury Doughboy too often. |
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Depauw
Oct 29, 2022 21:13:59 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 29, 2022 21:13:59 GMT -6
I was trying to watch and quickly post for you guys. Damn Sparks was hit in the head he did not return Hendrix came into the game in one possession he Blocked 2 shots played some D got the steal started the break and Took the return pass for a monster dunk It was Hendricks signature moment it may never happen again Damn, since it wasn't televised, does that mean it wasn't captured on film? Those of us who couldn't attend the game will never see it? The crowd roared. He turned and ran back the other way like he'd done it before. A great moment. But you are right, we may not see it every game. |
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Post by rusty on Oct 29, 2022 21:15:39 GMT -6
Calling BS After an exhibition game you got all that? It went as expected.
Next year? Haven’t played a game that actually matters yet and you’re already contemplating next year?
No expectations here but lots of potential hopes.
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 7:37:20 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on Oct 30, 2022 7:37:20 GMT -6
So…..playing Bumb reduced minutes (18) didn't positively affect his shooting? 🤔 I’m shocked. Yeah, the idea that fatigue could cause spells of poor shooting is total lunacy, and the sample of one shot against DePauw conclusively proves just how crazy that idea was. We can drop the subject now. |
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 7:55:21 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on Oct 30, 2022 7:55:21 GMT -6
Damn, since it wasn't televised, does that mean it wasn't captured on film? Those of us who couldn't attend the game will never see it? The crowd roared. He turned and ran back the other way like he'd done it before. A great moment. But you are right, we may not see it every game. Glad Hendriks now has a better career high point than the one listed in his bio - being on the #3 seed team of a tourney that didn't happen. |
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 8:19:48 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 30, 2022 8:19:48 GMT -6
So…..playing Bumb reduced minutes (18) didn't positively affect his shooting? 🤔 I’m shocked. Yeah, the idea that fatigue could cause spells of poor shooting is total lunacy, and the sample of one shot against DePauw conclusively proves just how crazy that idea was. We can drop the subject now. Really? Why?
It is pure ignorance to pretend tired legs and fatigue do not contribute to poor shooting late in games, and late in a long season. Anyone who has played or practiced has experienced this, especially in a long season. Good evidence is to look at the NBA where they play too many games, with too many back to back games involving travel.
Your error is an error in logic and causality. This is not iron clad causality. Even NBA players have bad shooting nights unrelated to fatigue and good shooting nights when playing back to back. The proposition is that fatigue negatively effects shooting on average. NOT that fatigue is the only factor or is always the cause. There is no doubt you can overcome fatigue (at least partially) by focus. You play through it. Sometimes you can, sometimes not.
The Depauw game most likely proves nothing about fatigue as a factor.
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 8:38:18 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on Oct 30, 2022 8:38:18 GMT -6
Oh crap, did I forget the explicit sarcasm indicators again?
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 9:36:00 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Oct 30, 2022 9:36:00 GMT -6
Oh crap, did I forget the explicit sarcasm indicators again? My bad. But, what exactly do you think about shooting and fatigue? |
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Post by williamtsherman on Oct 30, 2022 9:48:32 GMT -6
I would say that it's beyond argument that, at some point, fatigue affects shooting accuracy for anyone. Is this a factor in bumbalough's shooting?...that's the question. It does seem to me that he is a streaky shooter - meaning that his shooting percentage for any given shot is positively correlated with his shooting percentage for recently preceding shots. Is this actually true? That's an empirical question that I could probably research and answer if I wanted to devote the time...which I don't. It is definitely true that he averaged 33+ minutes a game and is usually matched up with players that are difficult athletic match ups for him. Seems pretty safe to assume that he experiences fatigue more than the average player.
If I were the coaching staff, I would at least run the numbers and see if it can be demonstrated that his shooting accuracy is negatively correlated with accumulating minutes in a game. For all I know, he shoots BETTER with more minutes, but that wouldn't seem to be the way to bet.
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Depauw
Oct 30, 2022 10:21:47 GMT -6
Post by sdacardinal on Oct 30, 2022 10:21:47 GMT -6
Bumb does not shoot a soft shot. He either drills it or it is a brick off the rim. Think about some of the shooters that we have had. Some have been described as having a "real good touch" where the shot is quietly made and if a little off bounces on the rim and then in.
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