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Post by realitycheck on Nov 8, 2022 23:08:36 GMT -6
Man a lot of loser mentality excuses after that pathetic passing performance. You either can or can't get the job done and Paddock is not getting it done. I had a friend and former player who lives out of state call me an hour before kickoff to ask about our chances and the spread. I told him I love Carson Steele and who doesn't right, but I don't trust Paddock to get us a win period and frankly it's not really debatable any more guys. Our defense and Steele are why we are 5-5. The QB position has hamstrung us and will be our bane these last two games I predict. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 8, 2022 23:14:59 GMT -6
It’s easy to blame Paddock but every phase of the passing game is lacking. Paddock is often hurried, and when he does deliver a good ball it is often dropped or the receiver has no separation. A 4 yard pass on 3rd and 7 is fine if the WR is open, but he never is.
Steele finds a way to gain yards despite basically always being hit at the line of scrimmage.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 8, 2022 23:16:17 GMT -6
Man a lot of loser mentality excuses after that pathetic passing performance. You either can or can't get the job done and Paddock is not getting it done. I had a friend and former player who lives out of state call me an hour before kickoff to ask about our chances and the spread. I told him I love Carson Steele and who doesn't right, but I don't trust Paddock to get us a win period and frankly it's not really debatable any more guys. Our defense and Steele are why we are 5-5. The QB position has hamstrung us and will be our bane these last two games I predict. Hope I'm wrong. last 2 who are you fucking kidding we already know paddock is the guy next year as well and if he is That’s on Neu for not making the change or for not recruiting someone better
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 8, 2022 23:20:07 GMT -6
It’s easy to blame Paddock but every phase of the passing game is lacking. Paddock is often hurried, and when he does deliver a good ball it is often dropped or the receiver has no separation. A 4 yard pass on 3rd and 7 is fine if the WR is open, but he never is. Steele finds a way to gain yards despite basically always being hit at the line of scrimmage. oh it’s all fucked but he also had 10 plus just terrible passes it’s not all on him but he ain’t the guy
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 8, 2022 23:23:13 GMT -6
I’ve watched every MAC team multiple times now and he does not start on any of them.
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Post by BSUMike on Nov 8, 2022 23:29:21 GMT -6
I’ve watched every MAC team multiple times now and he does not start on any of them. I am convinced that Paddock is our starting QB because he gives good pep talks in the locker room. Maybe he should be a coach, but we need better results on the field.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 8, 2022 23:32:05 GMT -6
The fucking horrible part is we can’t change now the D and Steele have been good enough all year to allow us to be 5-5 and still be playing for a bowl. Which also means we once again have backups with zero snaps of real exp. Even if he does switch it up next year we are breaking in a Qb with nothing
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Post by chupacabra on Nov 8, 2022 23:44:06 GMT -6
Our record should not deter Neu from phasing in another style QB on a few series at this point. If not for performance, then injury possibility readiness for the rest of this season and next.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 8, 2022 23:53:51 GMT -6
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Post by northcarolina1 on Nov 8, 2022 23:54:45 GMT -6
At least try to run Steele on the outside, not every time up the middle? Call a few short passes, run a reverse or something?! Entire second half was full of predictable calls?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 9, 2022 0:36:57 GMT -6
That’s par for the course and goes well beyond this year. That’s on Kevin or Neu
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 9, 2022 1:20:16 GMT -6
Early this year I would have said Paddock had no time to throw but I thought he had decent time on a fair number of plays today and just delivered a terrible ball. And while the defense on the receivers was pretty good, I also thought there were times when Paddock just didn't get the ball there on time.
I'm going to assume Neu has ingrained the whole "team" concept so deeply that he might fear a backlash if he were to turn away from a team leader like Paddock (I assume he's a team leader) when the going gets tough.
OTOH, I'm not sure how you sit there as a coach after tonight's game and don't apologize to the defense, and Steele, even the O-line, for not providing them with a better passing game. Whoever is to blame for that (and it's ultimately Neu) should be embarrassed by that phase of the game, and should be willing to make significant changes to improve it.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 9, 2022 4:49:27 GMT -6
Paddock isn’t good enough. To have no other viable options at this point is purely on Neu. He makes a choice and then never changes it. And he’ll ride with paddock again next year. Because that’s what Mike does. Totally wastes the defense and Steele.
So, ok, if paddock the best option, farking SCHEME better. We are so one dimensional in our play calling and sets that there’s just no way any decent d won’t stop us. We all know the plays! If the oline and wr can’t physically win their matchups we are effed. And we’re effed to the point of losing 4 very winnable games because of break downs on o and overall lack of talent. 100% on Neu and staff. Lack of identifying the best talent on offense and developing it and getting on the field, and lack of tactical coaching ability to scheme shit open.
It’s a conundrum— that we are 5-5, were playing for a division title, and are in position to scrap to get to another bowl is testament to the coaching staff. That we are ONLY 5-5, are no longer playing for a division title and HAVE to scrap to get bowl eligibility is also an indictment of the coaching staff. Turns out it’s bee a season of lost, missed, blown opportunities and so much of it comes down to an overmatched HC and OC.
No qualms with the defense. It does eventually break down each game, but can you blame them? Offense puts them in untenable positions. Have a Qb/passing attack worth the slightest damn and we have at minimum 2 more MAC wins.
Ou game will see our defensive damn burst.
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Post by DaRegion on Nov 9, 2022 4:58:53 GMT -6
With almost zero pass rush and less than a hundo yards passing, I'm amazed we only lost by 7.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 9, 2022 5:57:46 GMT -6
Our record should not deter Neu from phasing in another style QB on a few series at this point. If not for performance, then injury possibility readiness for the rest of this season and next. I can’t think of a single aspect of Neu’s tenure here that would make me think he would do that. I haven’t watched the post-game presser yet, and I don’t know how much of what he says he believes, but I get the impression Neu thinks we were fighting for a MAC championship because the system is working. I expect him to credit Toledo’s defense in shutting down Paddock.
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