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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 30, 2022 21:23:53 GMT -6
That 50 mil your seeing tgere is for those 8 buildings and the other individual things you mentioned. The collective is above and beyond that with gameabove leading the way funding the collective while other alum and ypsi businesses contribute. They paid Bates 1 million this year George Gervin sits on the board for the all purpose funding. That might skew athletic fund raising to BB. I doubt the NIL numbers. 50 mil commitment already is awfully hard to get at this level, even with naming rights. NIL is anonymous. I don’t know I’m not there. I was talking with a group of Eastern guys they seemed to know their shit. They are basically the emu version of us. Now we’ve been wrong of course but it’s not often the case |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 30, 2022 21:45:35 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Nov 30, 2022 21:57:41 GMT -6
Controlled by the school or what? I don’t know any details Very interesting to me. You’d think they’d want people to know where to send money. Now that all these doors are open we should probably make like a OTP NIL fund. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 30, 2022 22:00:31 GMT -6
George Gervin sits on the board for the all purpose funding. That might skew athletic fund raising to BB. I doubt the NIL numbers. 50 mil commitment already is awfully hard to get at this level, even with naming rights. NIL is anonymous. I don’t know I’m not there. I was talking with a group of Eastern guys they seemed to know their shit. They are basically the emu version of us. Now we’ve been wrong of course but it’s not often the case Whew! It must be true then. When have we ever been wrong? |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 30, 2022 22:04:53 GMT -6
I heard a couple months ago that BSU does have some sort of Nil pot that has a couple million in it Controlled by the school or what? Or what is a good guess. Regulation of NIL is a mess. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 30, 2022 22:09:24 GMT -6
Very interesting to me. You’d think they’d want people to know where to send money. Now that all these doors are open we should probably make like a OTP NIL fund. Our vast influence and great personal wealth collectively is an unmatched fund raising potential which could be unleashed. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 30, 2022 22:10:49 GMT -6
I don’t know I’m not there. I was talking with a group of Eastern guys they seemed to know their shit. They are basically the emu version of us. Now we’ve been wrong of course but it’s not often the case Whew! It must be true then. When have we ever been wrong? speak for yourself |
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Post by villagepub on Dec 1, 2022 0:18:53 GMT -6
Read on N Illinois blog they are afraid half MAC schools will be forced out of D1 within 5 yrs including them. Just 6 years ago they were attempting to get into the Big 12 |
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 7:55:30 GMT -6
Read on N Illinois blog they are afraid half MAC schools will be forced out of D1 within 5 yrs including them. Toledo blog says while they look good in MAC on money raised they don't look good with other G5 schools. So what amazing plans does anyone have to bring in money? NIL for MAC schools will be a smaller scale arms race. But in the end mid majors will be unable to keep up the pretense they are like FBS schools. So it's going to be a race for second tier talent, and we are going to be even less relevant in CFB.
If we do sign the occasional difference maker (in BB that might have much greater impact) there would be a bidding war after the kid proves himself at this level. It's bad enough to have the lure for our kids of playing on the giant stage, mult-million dollar dorms and playing the big names in P5. When the money is ridiculously different, on top of that...
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 1, 2022 8:33:41 GMT -6
The problem is that they combined NIL with instant transfer eligibility. If it had just been NIL, the G5 wouldn't be the farm system for the P5 as it is right now. Kinda hard to make bank when you can't play for a year.
The NCAA is a joke. They can't regulate anything anymore. They just organize championships (except for football, the cash cow), sit back, and rake in March Money. The sad thing is that the more talent that goes to the P5, the less interesting March Madness becomes. How many 5/12 upsets will there be in the future? 2/15 upsets? Even a 1 seed got wiped out in the first round a few years ago. May never happen again.
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Post by david75bsu on Dec 1, 2022 8:36:50 GMT -6
I feel we should follow the Ivy League model, no scholarships for athletics. Get athletes who want an education and sports for the fun of sports. It works for them, it could work for us. This new arms race just makes me more firm in this beleif!
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 8:55:49 GMT -6
I feel we should follow the Ivy League model, no scholarships for athletics. Get athletes who want an education and sports for the fun of sports. It works for them, it could work for us. This new arms race just makes me more firm in this beleif! Ivy League does have an edge in the value of the degree and amount of need based money available. That attracts good FB players. The MAC or another group of similar schools would have to be convinced on joining this experiment which rules out this happening. Moving to a new lower tier with fewer scholarships, lower budgets, does seem inevitable though. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 1, 2022 9:06:00 GMT -6
I feel we should follow the Ivy League model, no scholarships for athletics. Get athletes who want an education and sports for the fun of sports. It works for them, it could work for us. This new arms race just makes me more firm in this beleif! My thought was that any athlete, if they take NIL money, gets their scholarship revoked. They would still be on the team and count towards the total allowed scholarships, but they would get no money from the school/taxpayers. They would have to pay their own way. Why should I see my tax money go to some kid making a million in NIL? I can't see any state wanting to be the first to implement this, though. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 1, 2022 9:08:12 GMT -6
Ivy League does have an edge in the value of the degree and amount of need based money available. That attracts good FB players. That explains their multiple FCS championships. /sarcasm/ |
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Post by 00hmh on Dec 1, 2022 9:52:31 GMT -6
I feel we should follow the Ivy League model, no scholarships for athletics. Get athletes who want an education and sports for the fun of sports. It works for them, it could work for us. This new arms race just makes me more firm in this beleif! My thought was that any athlete, if they take NIL money, gets their scholarship revoked. They would still be on the team and count towards the total allowed scholarships, but they would get no money from the school/taxpayers. They would have to pay their own way. Why should I see my tax money go to some kid making a million in NIL? I can't see any state wanting to be the first to implement this, though. Spending on player scholarships doesn't bother me as much as for coaching staff, plush facilities and running a big budget deficit to pretend to be part of a game that is becoming unrecognizable. You are 100% right that this is no longer amateur competition with a purpose related to educational opportunity.
Something needs to change to rescue the lost values of old time CFB. Some kind of effective regulation of portal and NIL and changing this player money to some degree is needed, we are losing a lot.
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